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From Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [RELEASE} a few DL questions...
Date Fri, 27 Apr 2012 21:53:45 GMT


On 04/27/2012 01:57 PM, Roberto Galoppini wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 9:04 PM, Rob Weir<robweir@apache.org>  wrote:
>> On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Roberto Galoppini<rgaloppini@geek.net>  wrote:
>>> On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Rob Weir<robweir@apache.org>  wrote:
>>>> On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Kay Schenk<kay.schenk@gmail.com>
 wrote:
>>>>> I've been working on a prototype of the DL button in the /download/test
area
>>>>> given our discussions about split mirror setup for 3.4 etc. I have a
�few
>>>>> more edits to do �before sending out a notification about final review
>>>>> (later today).
>>>>>
>>>>> But...I have a few questions for this release.
>>>>>
>>>>> * The DL scripts have a good amount of logic surrounding the naming/download
>>>>> of 3.2 and 3.1 releases-- the "old" naming schema. Since we won't be
>>>>> providing "friendly" DL buttons for these anymore, is it safe to pull
this
>>>>> stuff out?
>>>>>
>>>>> * DL locations for Mac PPC and FreeBSD are as follows (excuse wrapping):
>>>>>
>>>>> var MIRROR_MAC_PPC_URL � � �=
>>>>> "http://ooopackages.good-day.net/pub/OpenOffice.org/contrib/macosppc/";
>>>>> var MIRROR_FREEBSD32_URL � �=
>>>>> "http://ooopackages.good-day.net/pub/OpenOffice.org/contrib/freebsdx86/";
>>>>> var MIRROR_FREEBSD64_URL � �=
>>>>> "http://ooopackages.good-day.net/pub/OpenOffice.org/contrib/freebsdx86-64/";
>>>>>
>>>>> Will this still be the case or will all versions be served from either
>>>>> Apache or SourceForge? The DL logic needs to be changed if this alternate
>>>>> URL is not used.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think the main download link should only provide links to official
>>>> AOO releases. � We could have another section (maybe in other.html)
>>>> where we can point to third party binaries and ports. �But we should
>>>> have a disclaimer making it clear that these packages are not official
>>>> releases.
>>>>
>>>> I also agree that we should not inter-mix 3.3 and 3.4 downloads.
>>>>
>>>> Another thing to consider is how we actually invoke the download.
>>>> Right now we simply link to the SF site. �So after the download is
>>>> done the user is left sitting at SF. �This is not ideal. � �I wonder
>>>> whether it would be better to load the SF page in a new page, via
>>>> target="_blank" and then refresh our download.html to contribute.html
>>>> so after the download is done, and the user closes the SF page, they
>>>> are back in the openoffice website with a "thanks for downloading"
>>>> messsage and followup info to engage the user in the community.
>>>
>>> Actually to avoid to open new pages we did modify the download page by
>>> adding all info previously available.
>>> We have been beta testing for over a week, and is now live. Hope this
>>> will remove the need to open new pages.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Roberto,
>>
>> So what we have today looks like this:
>>
>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/stable/3.3.0/OOo_3.3.0_Win_x86_install-wJRE_en-US.exe/download
>>
>> After the download, on the left, are some boxes that contain all the
>> info that we used to show to the user here:
>>
>> http://www.openoffice.org/download/contribute.html
>>
>> That is good, since it gives several different ways for the user to
>> engage with the project, etc.
>>
>> However, it is less prominent than before and does require additional
>> mouse clicks to navigate the different sections. � �I think it is less
>> effective than what we had before. �For example, I'm seeing only 47
>> referrals since April 11th from SF to our "Get Involved" paged, the
>> first link given. �We used to get hundreds of these from the old
>> contribute.html page.
>>
>> I wonder if simpler would be better? �So instead of the pop-up page
>> which I suggested before, and which is annoying for some users, maybe
>> keep the SF as it is, but make the content simpler, with the aim of
>> referring users back to contribute.html.
>>
>> So something like this:
>>
>> Thanks for downloading Apache OpenOffice, the free and open
>> productivity suit. � We invite you to learn more about how to enhance
>> your experience with OpenOffice, sign up to receive important
>> notifications and learn how you can contribute to make the next
>> version of OpenOffice even better".
>>
>> If we make it short and sweet like that, maybe even use some of the
>> AOO graphical elements, then mayb we can improve the engagement?
>> But I'm not a web UI/marketing expert. �Maybe someone has some other
>> ideas.
>
> Working on it, it will be operative by next Monday.
>
>
> Roberto
>

I love what SourceForge has done here by the way! Very nice! and very 
creative from the norm.

>
>> -Rob
>>
>>
>>> Roberto
>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Rob
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your time.
>>>>> --
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> MzK
>>>>>
>>>>> "Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
>>>>> �And life has a funny way of helping you out
>>>>> �Helping you out."
>>>>> � � � � � � � � � � � � � �-- "Ironic", Alanis
Morissette
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