Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C7EEB9CEF for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 09:24:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 88340 invoked by uid 500); 14 Mar 2012 09:24:51 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 88255 invoked by uid 500); 14 Mar 2012 09:24:51 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 88064 invoked by uid 99); 14 Mar 2012 09:24:50 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 09:24:50 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of rgardler@opendirective.com designates 74.125.82.175 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.125.82.175] (HELO mail-we0-f175.google.com) (74.125.82.175) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 09:24:42 +0000 Received: by wera1 with SMTP id a1so1440713wer.6 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 02:24:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=opendirective.com; s=opendirective; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=3NctpgYF2lRE/TfM5JSlqqZzLwNlag5CXF0GlRzTx0c=; b=Hwx3j4Eq3avzfuRn9LB4JhkvYcPNC5jVI/OfvEIGYJQ6Z6JTqEzLED9OJPVVUyoZLE Vt5kS/Md2yGryT0oxdUvDyXOsf1Jlm3gn/2CSIx6lw1EwX6RCSP/qjhmne6we3fAIRYe ju/Y6KJ6IYs6eYp5Qs8xS4un1nAUBAVEm/UWc= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=3NctpgYF2lRE/TfM5JSlqqZzLwNlag5CXF0GlRzTx0c=; b=mjJYQOhk6HQRukAQkzvGs8QpS9dyBFG/v3lfVKpC3rgswDMJ49ZfthalF558jZiya3 n9LoHla7gE3XYnPgyy/2pLVtYJedNZYaFBiGtgTdxjibt9562WkOieBltM+I8RNKIeBn g7QxoOfH9DTHobE7CJfxEDEgGdmpkd+i9Ao+FYxv5zO/Wf4F68T/odH8PA8bkGFSVMuK yXl0QROJOosnzPdZ95uGoy0wtK1w1DARsSapHlSbnbKacr5QHx+TxweGYsSsOHDQHp3P rCyF919KTFkD+XB9u3hniEPvzr5qgvfUXNHSIHVw0qkl8lXawwZXj5IVYFP7WucdcSVF A0tQ== Received: by 10.216.135.199 with SMTP id u49mr1204999wei.7.1331717062221; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 02:24:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.83.40 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 02:23:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [86.153.88.49] In-Reply-To: References: <9F766A37-80BF-464F-9B2C-21B4E80046B3@webmink.com> <61DD66D7-D3C2-4D2A-A60A-76C0881782B8@comcast.net> From: Ross Gardler Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 09:23:42 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Clarifying facts To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkx5+w8oC65hgqsBGgN5hZx5F74tJW8Z4/rF47dUGUUFCYhfVdcFHZCMFXINaxc69McCjkq X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On 14 March 2012 08:02, Ross Gardler wrote: > Seems I spoke a little to early on some of the points below (see Joe's > observations later in this thread) > > The project is generally doing very well, but learning to play nice with > those not fully aligned to "the one true vision" is Spongebob that needs > work. s/Spogdebob/something A while ago I read a tweet that had been auto corrected to something like "Feel terrible this morning. Bad case of the Man Boobs" (s/Boobs/Flu) > > Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity. > > > On Mar 13, 2012 5:36 PM, "Ross Gardler" wrote: >> >> On 13 March 2012 17:17, Dave Fisher wrote: >> >> ... >> >> >> The Apache OpenOffice project is still in incubation and has not yet >> >> requested graduation to a TLP. >> > >> > A release is a prerequisite to graduation. Once a release has been made >> > graduation is next on the agenda. Our mentors can correct me if I am wrong, >> > but we have likely met all of the other requirements. >> >> Speaking as just one mentor I believe the PPMC is now functioning as a >> healthy Apache PMC. Specifically: >> >> - the diversity requirement of the project has been met (in fact this >> was the case on day one) >> >> - all discussions relating to project strategy now take place on the >> public mailing lists >> >> - the voice of the lone contributor is as loud as the voice of any >> other contributor >> >> - decisions are being taken by those who are ready, willing and able >> to implement them >> >> - the community is rewarding those who earn merit with committership >> in the project >> >> - participants are finding their natural place within the community >> (this includes coders, testers, technical writers, forum admins, >> translators and many more) >> >> - the community is learning to respect and reward non-code contributions >> >> - there is evidence of cross-project collaboration both into and out of >> AOO >> >> - AOO project members are appearing in the appropriate places around >> the ASF to ensure full engagement with the foundation >> >> - mentors very rarely interject, unless specifically called upon >> >> - community members are learning not to feed trolls >> >> In summary, yes I think the AOO project is well on its way to >> graduation. A release is a pre-requisite to graduation as that is the >> point at which the ASF is able to assert that the code is fully >> license compliant. Once the first release is complete I imagine >> graduation will not be far behind. >> >> I look forward to seeing AOO code allowing the further adoption of ODF >> alongside other great ODF related projects. >> >> Ross -- Ross Gardler (@rgardler) Programme Leader (Open Development) OpenDirective http://opendirective.com