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Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 20:59:58 +0100
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Subject: Re: [MIGRATION] Shut down on remaining Oracle web resources
From: Roberto Galoppini <rgaloppini@geek.net>
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On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 8:40 PM, Rob Weir <robweir@apache.org> wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 3:21 PM, TJ Frazier <tjfrazier@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
>> On 3/15/2012 15:10, Rob Weir wrote:
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Roberto Galoppini<rgaloppini@geek.net>
>>> =A0wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Rob Weir<robweir@apache.org> =A0wrote=
:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Roberto Galoppini<rgaloppini@geek.n=
et>
>>>>> =A0wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:09 PM, Rob Weir<robweir@apache.org> =A0wr=
ote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sure.. =A0 What do you want me to add to that post? =A0Are there so=
me
>>>>>>> specific instructions?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Rob
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We might instruct users that to convert their accounts they just nee=
d
>>>>>> to enter their openoffice.org username and password and ask them to
>>>>>> read the messages shown. If they do not remember the password, the
>>>>>> link "Request new password" pages
>>>>>> http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/user
>>>>>> http://templates.services.openoffice.org/user
>>>>>> allows them to receive a link to change e-mail address and password
>>>>>> (note that the two websites use different logins).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Note that the "request new password" will work until the
>>>>>> @openoffice.org alias will be active.
>>>>>> Last but not least, the possibility to use the old password will wor=
k
>>>>>> until the Oracle authentication server is operational.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> VERY IMPORTANT: Consider that both kiling the alias forwarding and
>>>>>> shutting down the Oracle authentication server will prevent users to
>>>>>> login. I hope we can keep alive at least one of those services at
>>>>>> least until we'll get from Oracle all necessary information to migra=
te
>>>>>> users.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> OK. =A0I updated the blog post here:
>>>>> https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/retirement_of_openoffice_org_email
>>>>>
>>>>> But note that there is no guarantee that the announcement list reache=
s
>>>>> all of those people who have accounts on the extensions or templates
>>>>> website.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there another list that can be used to contact them? =A0Or is it
>>>>> possible to extract the names of the extension/template owners from
>>>>> the DB and send them an administrative note about the migration?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Of course we can do that, but maybe the PPMC doesn't want to send out
>>>> a message to 40k persons while actually only a tiny fraction of them
>>>> are or have been active users of the Extensions or Templates website.
>>>> What do you think?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Right. =A0I was hoping there was a way to send an email to only those
>>> users who have published an extension or template.
>>>
>>> -Rob
>>
>>
>> Fortunately, the extension publishers usually have a website listing in
>> their descriptions. If any of those have an oo.o address, we can deal wi=
th
>> them slowly and individually.
>>
>
> So there is no way to navigate, using DB queries, temporary tables,
> etc., from extensions artifacts to the owning account to the email
> address for the owning account?

Yes, we can definitely do that, but if we work out the right queries
to find the active ones do we have time to contact them via their
@openoffice.org accounts? If not the only available option seems to be
to wait for the email list, as mentioned by Andrew below.

Roberto

>
>> /tj/
>>
>>>
>>>>> Do you have any metrics on what % of accounts have converted?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Extensions: about 12k users, few hundreds have a published content, a
>>>> dozen or two have converted.
>>>> Templates: about 28k users, few hundreds have a published content, a
>>>> dozen or two have converted.
>>>>
>>>> Roberto
>>>>
>>>>> -Rob
>>>>>
>>>>>> Roberto
>>
>>
>>
>>
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