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[210.242.25.45]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i6sm6750488pbe.18.2012.03.17.07.06.57 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 17 Mar 2012 07:06:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4F649A7F.8030108@mail.imacat.idv.tw> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 22:06:55 +0800 From: imacat User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20120207 Icedove/3.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Apache OpenOffice Developers Subject: Re: AOO for Debian References: <4F612A75.1050603@mail.imacat.idv.tw> <08F96BCB-53C8-4BAE-A8CD-8255AE43A36A@free.fr> <4F62033A.5080308@apache.org> <25B690E4-39C9-42FA-9C50-453FE7E2C7ED@free.fr> <4F62D8FC.9070508@mail.imacat.idv.tw> <4F63A87E.4090609@mail.imacat.idv.tw> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig87120888E272E117B1200498" X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkuzXm7YWpQFeIblsRmhaXIwB6cka6SdGtrTa3BVRqOrBmT8l1ub2sV9+9AFarM06X8DImO X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --------------enig87120888E272E117B1200498 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2012/03/17 11:20, Rob Weir said: > On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 4:54 PM, imacat wro= te: >> I talked to a DD for hours. He said I and Eric were wrong to talk >> on debian-openoffice@lists.debian.org. I should have talked to him >> before I did that. I should find another DD sponsor in the beginning,= >> try to package AOO and OOo4Kids well and have that sponsor checked OK,= >> and just *boom* the ready AOO and OOo4Kids package into Debian. >> Dear Rod: To answer your question: Yes, people does not go to OOo= >> or LO package maintainers for Gnumeric or Abiword. That's too stupid.= >> They are rival projects, and those rival DD simply says NO. KDE >> maintainers says NO to GNOME, and vice versa. People finds other >> sponsors to submit these packages, and that's how they coexist. > So it sounds like the DD's are the "gatekeepers", and if we make them > happy, then we will have success. So we need to find a DD who will > help us. Actually, I'm thinking about something different. We shall have some DD+PMCs that work for both projects, just like these DD+TDFs. Of course, we still need some friendly DDs to bring us in. It takes time to become a DD, but luckily we still have some (at least unlike our 3.4 release schedule). --=20 Best regards, imacat ^_*' PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc <> News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ Apache OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ --------------enig87120888E272E117B1200498 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk9kmn8ACgkQi9gubzC5S1w/dQCbBArpyMhWYgRlfECRTOvBtzEj fiEAn3KpGg1nPd/3+tQfOEFesQzGFaQm =CCjt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig87120888E272E117B1200498--