Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 85AB49983 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 19:03:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 59738 invoked by uid 500); 13 Mar 2012 19:03:31 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 59675 invoked by uid 500); 13 Mar 2012 19:03:31 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 59666 invoked by uid 99); 13 Mar 2012 19:03:31 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 19:03:31 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [98.138.90.79] (HELO nm16.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com) (98.138.90.79) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with SMTP; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 19:03:22 +0000 Received: from [98.138.90.55] by nm16.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Mar 2012 19:03:01 -0000 Received: from [98.138.84.33] by tm8.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Mar 2012 19:03:01 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp101.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Mar 2012 19:03:01 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 525738.37082.bm@smtp101.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: TWit.kcVM1ni2fMsrApyISnM0t3AH2P4uGHM3kjIeNGxJHj ffuJkSBUR_YSoCpoVxdzL0zULeH5phUru_8v.VP5_q.bxPhygXtXmnkBWarV g00fjgckIiYWlxlGY8.dqbLiN7HmpoinqNFhlwUWDbvcU0z6t2vQdgT5yu_d _2Kbcm9.QHVxWyhAwslkDPWmS8vHpqfuSpK.B14w6Ms721cmp.0ajMLgBfus cunc_3sgpwSW1_8QXvCYLaA7PwirmCTaZuBS4ichHR.3RxbNdtc2ZzaTLDXQ zrCQvkqFByupZRv8ZI9odoXAppVYk77Xnv.YkM_.eUYBpfDWT8uHcf7D9V83 IHhBbNtPBICCblQzh1dyJQYHJiKGdvDh0N2zBudKzvAuc0HLfnfKKGwAbeoC FaHSMFcD.fslxZkJE0FVDETZOmMySlp.zG4DiOb6BkbRSFxrakrvhIuOxNnU LfA1IXAOhbDyWEHsGtd3t1Eb.P0rP X-Yahoo-SMTP: xcjD0guswBAZaPPIbxpWwLcp9Unf Received: from [192.168.10.102] (pfg@200.118.157.7 with plain) by smtp101.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Mar 2012 12:03:01 -0700 PDT Message-ID: <4F5F99E3.1090805@apache.org> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 14:02:59 -0500 From: Pedro Giffuni User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120226 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Clarifying facts References: <9F766A37-80BF-464F-9B2C-21B4E80046B3@webmink.com> <61DD66D7-D3C2-4D2A-A60A-76C0881782B8@comcast.net> <0EBCBA93-3522-4F57-8722-4B634E71FC20@webmink.com> In-Reply-To: <0EBCBA93-3522-4F57-8722-4B634E71FC20@webmink.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On 03/13/12 12:42, Simon Phipps wrote: > Thanks, Dave, very helpful. > > On 13 Mar 2012, at 17:17, Dave Fisher wrote: > >> Hi Simon, >> >> These are all "facts" - however they do have a certain "negative spin". You need to be "informed". > :-) No better place to come. I'm sorry you found them spun; I felt they were concise answers to the questions I was being asked. > Don't take this personally but I think the statements you made clearly represent *your* misunderstandings with this project from the start. In particular your futile resistance to the idea that, independently of any forks, for good or for bad OpenOffice.org lives here. I really think this posting is very valuable though. I propose that you write them into a FAQ and that after fixing it according to the consensus in this list we publish it in the openoffice.org website. > >>> No downloads of OpenOffice.org containing bug fixes or security updates have been made available for end users since Oracle stopped development. I find this statement particularly dangerous: Apache OpenOffice is by all means the official source of bug fixes and security updates for OpenOffice.org. Also please note that it has been found that OOo was *not* GPL compatible so we strongly recommend developers to upgrade to AOO to avoid IP risks. Considering we own the trademark I guess we actually could dual name this release OpenOffice.org 3.4 and Apache OpenOffice 3.4 to make this clear (for this time only). Would that be acceptable to the ASF? Pedro.