Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6FF759B6C for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 20:38:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 83103 invoked by uid 500); 12 Mar 2012 20:38:48 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 83038 invoked by uid 500); 12 Mar 2012 20:38:48 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 83030 invoked by uid 99); 12 Mar 2012 20:38:48 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 20:38:48 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_SOFTFAIL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: softfail (nike.apache.org: transitioning domain of hagar.delest@laposte.net does not designate 212.27.42.1 as permitted sender) Received: from [212.27.42.1] (HELO smtp1-g21.free.fr) (212.27.42.1) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 20:38:39 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.2] (unknown [83.153.184.98]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CA0F940179 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 21:38:14 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4F5E5EB4.1080608@laposte.net> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 21:38:12 +0100 From: Hagar Delest User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Is any one here familiar with OpenOffice? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org As said by several ones, let the code speak... As long as there is no release, it will be too easy to say: "look, there is nothing concrete yet after so many months of incubation". What would be the metrics to measure all these figures? To compare with what? How much energy put into this for what result? The best answer IMHO is a stable release, focused on quality first. And with as less negative impact for users as possible (like what, extensions maybe?). Hagar Le Mon, 12 Mar 2012 08:50:13 -0400, Rob Weir a �crit : > I jest,of course. > > But seriously, there are some claiming that "all" of the > OpenOffice.org project went over to LibreOffice and that the Apache > has zero experience with this code base. I know this sounds crazy, > but how can we best refute that statement? > > Here's my idea: Respond to this note and tell me how many years > experience you have working with OpenOffice. This could be in any > capacity, as a coder, tester, documentation, marketing, forum > volunteer, whatever. Please count relevant work with related > projects, such as Symphony, BSD ports, OOo4Kids, ODF, etc. as well. > How many years were you doing this before the project came to Apache? > > If I get a good number of responses I'll put together an infographic on this. > > Regards, > > -Rob