Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0022F9F80 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 19:42:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 89081 invoked by uid 500); 12 Mar 2012 19:42:02 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 89031 invoked by uid 500); 12 Mar 2012 19:42:02 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 89022 invoked by uid 99); 12 Mar 2012 19:42:02 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 19:42:02 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [98.139.213.165] (HELO nm20-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com) (98.139.213.165) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with SMTP; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 19:41:52 +0000 Received: from [98.139.215.141] by nm20.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Mar 2012 19:41:30 -0000 Received: from [98.139.211.196] by tm12.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Mar 2012 19:41:30 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Mar 2012 19:41:30 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 319233.6334.bm@smtp205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: RkDaaNcVM1mKJiP2Hl7A9fuCa1toqdqACTrDe7gusn_9MWP gqZE7tLMtUCqEalb_8sNLVv.I7cUaTFjGQJyUMmEY8MwCSOqVtxfSe5uOE5P RFQ8Ik7cFzHBLpGWFIHzuRJQxs86450yjoYxpXxCBMh5TJYH63xoYc3QwbX7 9n4FEQ4DH7ePLMBt1UB44lgEulDdPs9BOpDU4Wb4TB5IphmEpPTTEBeHuxZU KAlMlf6sjZbrY0hfRnEpMaBuC9_rdrmCa1XYsSpEwz6VWWHQuh7TwRBj7s2d r35y9OKUp3.T7yMwJv1BTHHk6jabua4IeKbWB.mUNp9YOy04pQjZb4KL7xW5 v9jyYMbkqjrvos4lLj_qZEi9o4cVWWD.pxAx4.yZJE0hzZA3EQoVfP56zich mxl1E3L9J6mqfFDnon3lP8dc_IbPn9pGYrdJhfXDkYuUM6yRWq9NevFtdDH1 Ox8Fbo4jXbuJReVQVr7.RJzDUpYT1zNYmK9_lTh4QS2QHXzXn.rxcU3Q- X-Yahoo-SMTP: xcjD0guswBAZaPPIbxpWwLcp9Unf Received: from [192.168.10.102] (pfg@200.118.157.7 with plain) by smtp205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Mar 2012 12:41:30 -0700 PDT Message-ID: <4F5E5168.5040309@apache.org> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 14:41:28 -0500 From: Pedro Giffuni User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120226 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Is any one here familiar with OpenOffice? References: <1331576657.19590.2.camel@sybil-gnome> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On 03/12/12 13:42, Rob Weir wrote: > > I'm not suggesting we argue with anyone. I'm suggesting we make > truthful positive statements about this project and the experience > level of its participants. > FWIW, and just my humble opinion ... I don't think we should spend time discussing such arguments when we have the one instrument that defines the true continuation of the project, namely www.openoffice.org . Looking at the main webpage I see only a small notice that the project is now hosted in the Apache Foundation but otherwise it's the old page with out any new information. I think we have to be more aggressive and we don't need to wait for the release to do that. We can already use Drew's Apache OpenOffice logo ... and how about a big sign that says: "This is the home of Apache OpenOffice(TM) and OpenOffice.org(R), serving you the leading open office suite since 1999." By the way, also make use of the milestone page: http://www.openoffice.org/about_us/milestones.html If we don't make use of the official project channels, *then* people will think the project is dead since 2004 !! Pedro.