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[195.212.29.180]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d5sm9098152bkb.3.2012.03.02.03.59.34 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 02 Mar 2012 03:59:35 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4F50B627.5090002@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2012 12:59:35 +0100 From: Oliver-Rainer Wittmann User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Request for a German-language mailing list References: <4F50AAD8.10003@t-online.de> In-Reply-To: <4F50AAD8.10003@t-online.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org +1 from my side for a German mailing list. Best regards, Oliver. On 02.03.2012 12:11, Regina Henschel wrote: > Hi all > > We from the german-nlc would like to make a new start. The de-nlc has a long > history and was one of the strongest OOo nlc projects. At peak times we had over > 40 Mails per day coming over the de-dev mailing list. The de site is one of the > most visited at the Apache OpenOffice project, and the chance is good that we > can get new volunteers. > > The problem is, without a mailing list it's hard to involve newcomers. > > The English list es not really a viable alternative - same as it wouldn't be > much good to force English native speakers to follow a ML with more than 40 > mails a day in Spanish for example. > > Non-programmers, who can do great work in QA, documentation and localization, > have first to learn how this project is set up. They would feel more comfortable > on a ML with less traffic and in their own language. > > But I'm sure many of those who join a German-language list will at some point in > time also come to the ooo-dev. So it's not about splitting the community. On the > contrary, it's about attracting new people to the project. > > We could of course setup a list outside of Apache - an alternative we have > already discussed. > > But we need to be closer to Apache. A group outside would need very careful > planning and coordination with the Apache project, and this would needlessly > take up valuable time which could be put to better use. At the same time we need > an up-and-running list need very soon, because the old infrastructure will be > shutting down in the near future. > > We would very much like to know, what you think of our proposition. > > This proposal has been discussed on dev@de.openoffice.org, see thread > http://openoffice.org/projects/de/lists/dev/archive/2012-02/message/32 > > Actual traffic on the German-language lists are > dev@de.openoffice.org: January 12, February 54 > users@de.openoffice.org: January 249, February 179 > > We request a list ooo-users-de@incubator.apache.org > We are not strongly determined to "users", but "discuss" would be also OK, if > that fits better to the common Apache praxis. > > Raphael Bircher and Michael Stehmann have agreed to moderate the new list. > > Kind regards > Regina > >