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Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 14:40:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: Joe Schaefer <joe_schaefer@yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: Doctype of websites
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>________________________________=0A> From: Regina Henschel <rb.henschel@t-=
online.de>=0A>To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org =0A>Sent: Tuesday, March 13,=
 2012 5:31 PM=0A>Subject: Re: Doctype of websites=0A> =0A>Hi Joe,=0A>=0A>Jo=
e Schaefer schrieb:=0A>> Those de.openoffice.org pages should redirect=0A>>=
 to www.openoffice.org/de pages, if not your=0A>> DNS resolver is busted.=
=0A>=0A>I had indeed set de.openoffice.org to 192.9.163.104. Removing it ma=
kes =0A>redirecting work.=0A>=0A>That means the pages at de.openoffice.org =
had been the original ones, =0A>but will be deleted in near future. They ha=
d been imported to =0A>ooo-site.apache.org/de and here they have got a diff=
erent doctype. Right?=0A=0A=0A=0AWell sort of. If you look at the actual do=
cument on the site=0Ayou will probably find it contains an XHTML doctype ev=
en now.=0AThe thing is that the CMS build system as Dave has designed it=0A=
will strip most of the header matter out of the file and replace=0Ait with =
a generic one supplied by a template.=0A=0A=0A>=0A>=A0=A0=A0If that's not t=
he problem=0A>> then you need to refresh your pages as they=0A>> are identi=
cal on the server.=0A>>=0A>> As to why the doctype is different from the or=
iginal=0A>> document, that's probably due to the way Dave worked=0A>> out t=
he templates for the site.=A0 If we need to scrape=0A>> the doctype out of =
each individual page that will require=0A>> some perl coding work, some tem=
plating work,=0A>> and another sledgehammer style commit- ie not something=
=0A>> to be taken lightly.=0A>=0A>Our pages had been XHTML with all the dif=
ferences to HTML. And we tried =0A>to produce valid pages (including W3C ch=
eck button). It is not =0A>impossible to change the pages and it can be don=
e bit by bit while =0A>reviewing the pages. But the aim should be clear.=0A=
=0A=0AWell I can't advise you how to proceed from here, only point out=0Ath=
at there is some impedance mismatch between how your site builds=0Awork and=
 what's actually in these documents.=A0 The choice seems=0Ato be either sta=
ndardize all the documents on a common doctype=0Aor have the perl code pull=
 the doctype out of the original document=0Aif it exists and pass it along =
to the template as an argument.=0A=0A=0AYou might even be better off just n=
ot supplying a doctype at all=0Aand letting the browser figure it out.=A0 U=
p to you folks.=0A=0A=0A>=0A>Kind regards=0A>Regina=0A>=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=
=0A>>> ________________________________=0A>>> From: Regina Henschel<rb.hens=
chel@t-online.de>=0A>>> To: Apache OpenOffice.org dev<ooo-dev@incubator.apa=
che.org>=0A>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 4:36 PM=0A>>> Subject: Doctype=
 of websites=0A>>>=0A>>> Hi all,=0A>>>=0A>>> I just adapt the page http://o=
oo-site.apache.org/de/about-ooo/about-mailinglist.html about mailing lists =
to the new situation.=0A>>>=0A>>> There I come across following problem:=0A=
>>>=0A>>> The pages at http://de.openoffice.org for example=0A>>> http://de=
.openoffice.org/foren.html=0A>>> http://de.openoffice.org/about-ooo/about-m=
ailinglist.html=0A>>> have the correct doctype=0A>>> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC =
"-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/x=
html1-transitional.dtd";>=0A>>>=0A>>> But the pages at http://ooo-site.apac=
he.org/de=0A>>> for example=0A>>> http://ooo-site.apache.org/de/foren.html=
=0A>>> http://ooo-site.apache.org/de/about-ooo/about-mailinglist.html=0A>>>=
 have the wrong doctype=0A>>> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 =
Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd";>=0A>>>=0A>>> And =
I do not know the difference between=0A>>> http://ooo-site.apache.org/de/ab=
out-ooo/about-mailinglist.html=0A>>> which I edit, and=0A>>> http://de.open=
office.org/about-ooo/about-mailinglist.html=0A>>> which shows the version b=
efore my edit.=0A>>>=0A>>> Can someone explain it to me?=0A>>>=0A>>> Kind r=
egards=0A>>> Regina=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>