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From Yong Lin Ma <mayo...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Is any one here familiar with OpenOffice?
Date Tue, 13 Mar 2012 12:34:59 GMT
Although most people introduced themselves before. It is still good
and meaningful to see people gathered and say hello to each other in
single thread. This also can give us an impression that how many
contributors are active after 9 months.

>
> On 2012-03-12 5:49 PM, Dave Fisher wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Mar 12, 2012, at 1:07 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Pedro Giffuni<pfg@apache.org>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 03/12/12 14:48, Rob Weir wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Pedro Giffuni<pfg@apache.org>
  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 03/12/12 13:42, Rob Weir wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm not suggesting we argue with anyone.  I'm suggesting we
make
>>>>>>> truthful positive statements about this project and the experience
>>>>>>> level of its participants.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> FWIW, and just my humble opinion ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't think we should spend time discussing such arguments
>>>>>> when we have the one instrument that defines the true
>>>>>> continuation of the project, namely www.openoffice.org .
>>>>>>
>>>>> Oh, I'm sure we all have our own preferred ways of doing this.  The
>>>>> nice thing is that they are not mutually exclusive. We only need to
>>>>> agree to be accurate and positive.   We don't need to agree on a
>>>>> narrow set of specific communications. Some volunteers might work
>>>>> better with HTML, others with YouTube videos, others with graphics.
>>>>> Let's find more ways of saying "yes and"  instead of "no, but".
>>>>>
>>>>> -Rob
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You didn't get it: the channel matters.
>>>>
>>>> If a blog from the Apache Foundation says "OpenOffice is not
>>>> dead" and a blog from TDF says "OpenOffice.org is dead",
>>>> well ... both can be wrong or right ...
>>>>
>>>> OTOH, If the openoffice.org says "alive and kicking" the
>>>> message is way more credible.
>>>>
>>>
>>> So that is a "yes, and" statement.  Yes, let's do the home page, and
>>> the other things as well, if we have volunteers to do them. They work
>>> together.  Certainly the home page gets a lot of traffic, so it can
>>> reinforce a message.
>>>
>>>> This said ... I don't feel confident enough to modify the
>>>> main page: if I, for example, screw things up badly and
>>>> want to revert my changes, can I do that easily in
>>>> Apache CMS?
>>>>
>>>
>>> It may depend on whether you want to change only the main index.html
>>> page, or change the repeated page elements that appear on every page.
>>> Dave would know how far you can go without forcing a complete rebuild.
>>
>>
>> We now use Server Side Includes and there are no longer any sledgehammer
>> builds.
>>
>> I have a notion to make it easy to add news to the main page. The buttons
>> are a current issue on the main page and the downloads.
>>
>> It is safe to change/update news stories using the Apache CMS Bookmarklet
>> directly from www.openoffice.org. If you are not a committer then you can
>> create a patch.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>>
>>> -Rob
>>>
>>>> cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Pedro.
>>
>>
>

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