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From Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Web page for NL communities ?
Date Mon, 19 Mar 2012 23:59:33 GMT
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 6:52 PM, Kay Schenk <kay.schenk@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Kay Schenk <kay.schenk@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:26 AM, Rob Weir <robweir@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Kay Schenk <kay.schenk@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 6:30 AM, Rob Weir <robweir@apache.org> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> We currently have a web page that lists all of our mailing lists:
>>> >> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/mailing-lists.html
>>> >>
>>> >> However, the native language lists that we're creating recently are
>>> >> not there.  And I think adding them to that page would not be the best
>>> >> approach.  I wonder if it would be better to highlight these
>>> >> communities on their own page.
>>> >>
>>> >> So something like this:
>>> >>
>>> >> On our podling page here:  http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/
>>> >>
>>> >> Add new page under Community called "Native Language Communities" or
>>> >> maybe something a little shorter.
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> > This sounds like a lovely  idea!
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >> On that page, explain a little what these groups are and are not.
>>> >> They are not separate Apache projects, but are "interest groups" or
>>> >> "language sections" within the AOO project, concentrating on native
>>> >> language support, localization, marketing efforts, etc.
>>> >>
>>> >> Then have a table listing the languages and the mailing lists. We
>>> >> could also have links to the website, e.g., de.openoffice.org. If
>>> >> there are official social media accounts used by that community (a
>>> >> Facebook page ot Twitter account, for example) we could link to those
>>> >> as well.
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> > It might be easiest, considering the state we're in with the NL mailing
>>> > lists right now, to document these on a wiki page, and just link to THAT
>>> > from the  new NL info page you suggest.
>>> >
>>>
>>> Wiki is fine also.  Personally, I prefer the Apache CMS and mdtext
>>> over Confluence wiki. It is easier to make a good looking page that
>>> has a consistent style with the rest of the site.  But as Emerson
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by
>>> little statesmen and philosophers and divines. With consistency a
>>> great soul has simply nothing to do. He may as well concern himself
>>> with his shadow on the wall. Speak what you think today in hard words,
>>> and tomorrow speak what tomorrow thinks in hard words again, though it
>>> contradict every thing you said today."
>>>
>>> So inconsistency is fine with me as well.
>>>
>>
>> Well it would certainly be easier for the mailing list "requestors" to
>> update a wiki page once their request had been processed, and then link the
>> web site page *TO* that I think. I will start this page, and hopefully
>> folks will update.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> > I've seen messages/setups go by for the new mailing lists, but
>>> honestly, I
>>> > have not been paying close attention.
>>> >
>>>
>>> I think we have current or requested lists for Japanese, German,
>>> Italian, Spanish, Brazilian Portuguese and French.
>>>
>>
>> This is what I've found so far...
>>
>> ooo-users-de
>> ooo-general-ja
>> ooo-geral-ptbr
>> ooo-general-es
>> ooo-utenti-it
>> ooo-progetto-it
>>
>> OK, I'll get started on this.
>>
>
> Well this took a bit more time than I expected, but we now have a "Native
> Language" area on the podling web site --
>
> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/
>

This looks good.  Thanks.

> Since we have few native language mailing lists right now, I guess not a
> problem with just listing them here. And thanks to Kazunari Hirano for
> pointing me what had already been discussed and the planning wiki page.
>
> I have yet to edit the existing Native Language page on the web server.
> Instead of just deleting the current project leads, though, I'm thinking of
> just changing the header to "Former Project Lead" in case someone (else)
> want s to contact that person. Thoughts on this?
>

Are we sure that the former leads actually want to be contacted?    It
may be more useful for a visitor to be directed to your new page.

-Rob

>
>>
>>
>>
>>> > If someone could create this new wiki page, I would happy to create the
>>> > front-end for it (and figure out how to modify the project menu).
>>> >
>>> > Thoughts?
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> -Rob
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> >
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> > MzK
>>> >
>>> > "Follow your bliss."
>>> >         -- attributed to Joseph Campbell
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> MzK
>>
>> "Follow your bliss."
>>          -- attributed to Joseph Campbell
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> MzK
>
> "Follow your bliss."
>         -- attributed to Joseph Campbell

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