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From Rob Weir <>
Subject Re: Is any one here familiar with OpenOffice?
Date Mon, 12 Mar 2012 21:05:47 GMT
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 4:38 PM, Hagar Delest <> wrote:
> As said by several ones, let the code speak...
> As long as there is no release, it will be too easy to say: "look, there is
> nothing concrete yet after so many months of incubation".

If people were saying only that we had not made a release, then that
would be accurate and truthful and would not need rebutting.  But they
are not saying that.  They are saying things like, "all the main
developers left to Libre Office project"  (an exact quotes).   These
statements, if not rebutted, become the "accepted truth".

> What would be the metrics to measure all these figures? To compare with
> what?

A list of experienced project participants would be a good metric. I'd
compare it to "none" which is what people are saying we have now.

> How much energy put into this for what result?

My energy is my concern, not yours.

> The best answer IMHO is a stable release, focused on quality first.
> And with as less negative impact for users as possible (like what,
> extensions maybe?).

The FUD that is being spread, if it is not rebutted with facts, has an
impact on the project, now, today and tomorrow. It deters potential
project participants from joining.  We are less successful developing
a release because of this FUD. Having negative statements said about
the project, widespread and frequent, is a problem.

We're not limited to telling the truth only on the day we make a release.


> Hagar
> Le Mon, 12 Mar 2012 08:50:13 -0400, Rob Weir <> a écrit :
>> I jest,of course.
>> But seriously, there are some claiming that "all" of the
>> project went over to LibreOffice and that the Apache
>> has zero experience with this code base.  I know this sounds crazy,
>> but how can we best refute that statement?
>> Here's my idea:  Respond to this note and tell me how many years
>> experience you have working with OpenOffice.  This could be in any
>> capacity, as a coder, tester, documentation, marketing, forum
>> volunteer, whatever.  Please count relevant work with related
>> projects, such as Symphony, BSD ports, OOo4Kids, ODF, etc. as well.
>> How many years were you doing this before the project came to Apache?
>> If I get a good number of responses I'll put together an infographic on
>> this.
>> Regards,
>> -Rob

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