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From Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org>
Subject Re: After AOO 3.4, attracting new contributors
Date Thu, 29 Mar 2012 13:04:22 GMT
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 8:31 AM, Kevin Grignon <kevingrignon.oo@gmail.com>wrote:

> Rob,
>
> Sounds like we can appeal to contributors intrinsic and extrinsic
> motivation.
>
> Another newbie question: Does OO have any experience recruiting
> non-technical volunteers. Many disciplines outside coding can have an
> impact on the offering. Product management, UX, ID, training, visual
> design, marketing, communications, etc. How might we position ourselves as
> open product development? A wider net would attract the diverse skills that
> could really make the effort a success long term.
>
>
See this page here, which our central "how can I help page":
http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/get-involved.html

So we need and value contributors in a wide range of disciplines, not just
technical ones.

-Rob

Regards,
> Kevin
>
> On Mar 29, 2012, at 7:39 PM, Rob Weir <robweir@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 12:37 AM, Pedro Giffuni <pfg@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Ram;
> >>
> >> We are strictly non-profit here so I am not sure how far
> >> we could go with such certifications. I think it's a
> >> delicate matter and sooner or later someone would likely
> >> complain about students being exploited or your company
> >> making money in exchange of ASF certificates.
> >>
> >>
> > But consider, don't we do exactly this when Apache participates in Google
> > Summer of Code?  We get students working on Apache projects, and in
> return
> > Apache gives the student a written evaluation.  And in return for a
> > successful evaluation the student gets money from Google.
> >
> > How is it any different if another company (not Google) encourages
> students
> > to contribute to the project and in return we provide some reference for
> > how well the student did?  How payments are handled beyond that is none
> of
> > our business.
> >
> >
> >
> >> We certainly can have a Wiki page for students to register
> >> their projects and ideas and if their projects are really
> >> good we would almost certainly invite them to become
> >> Apache committers but that as far as we can go (I think).
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Being voted in as as committer is one way to demonstrate accomplishment
> in
> > the project.
> >
> > Another way would be to show code contributions directly.  Everything in
> > version control is open to the public to inspect, so anyone with the
> right
> > skills can find this out.
> >
> > Another way is to use a  site like Ohloh, which puts these statistics in
> a
> > easier-to-read form.
> >
> > -Rob
> >
> >
> >> cheers,
> >>
> >> Pedro.
> >>
> >> --- Mer 28/3/12, qa@imsoftwaresystems.com ha scritto:
> >>
> >>> Hi Rob,
> >>>
> >>> Well, the large talent pool is available here in India with
> >>> millions of
> >>> students graduating in Engineering,MCA(Master of computer
> >>> applications).
> >>> They all look for a project for their final semester. We can
> >>> somehow try to
> >>> attract them but they also try to see what  is the
> >>> benefit for them. Most
> >>> of these guys they learn C/Java as part of their
> >>> syllabus.But we need to
> >>> retrain them as they generally  just try to pass and
> >>> not to be master of
> >>> it.
> >>> So we need to train them and make them useful.
> >>>
> >>> I have not seen the code base yet but based on the search
> >>> results what i
> >>> have understood is that it is implemented in
> >>>
> >>> Java,
> >>> OOBasic,
> >>> Cpp,
> >>> Python,
> >>> XSL,
> >>> ooRexx
> >>>
> >>> From Freshers point of view they prefer the new languages
> >>> like
> >>> Java(ofcourse it is a old one but still new when compared to
> >>> C/C++) or
> >>> advanced stuff like Android. But still we can train people
> >>> in C++ but it is
> >>> easy to attract people for Java.
> >>>
> >>> If we know the exact requirement of people then we can try
> >>> to gather the
> >>> people and train them and make them good to contribute to
> >>> the project.
> >>>
> >>> We have a software training institute and staff are from top
> >>> MNC's.Lot of
> >>> students approach us for Live Projects to gain some real
> >>> experience.
> >>>
> >>> So we may try to accept the people and train them. We charge
> >>> the students
> >>> for training as we have to pay the trainers.
> >>> Ultimately what students expect is an experience letter from
> >>> Apache so that
> >>> they can utilise it for future employment. In addition to
> >>> issuing the
> >>> certificate we should have their contribution mentioned in
> >>> our website
> >>> otherwise other job seekers will fake the cetificates.
> >>>
> >>> I think if the company(Apache) is ready to issue a
> >>> certificate mentioning
> >>> their contribution towards the project and list their
> >>> contribution in AOO
> >>> website then it should definetly work.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks & Regards,
> >>> Ram,
> >>> Im Software Systems
> >>>
> >>
> >>
>

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