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From Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [LIST MAIL] False Bounces from ooo-users
Date Fri, 23 Mar 2012 17:35:59 GMT
To paraphrase.  Some users are getting bounce errors.  You don't know
why.  But it is not coming from us.

The PPMC has zero control of this.  If you think Infra needs to be
involved, they have a list for that, and JIRA.

-Rob

On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 12:42 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton
<dennis.hamilton@acm.org> wrote:
> Posters to ooo-users@ i.a.o are receiving false bounce notices.  Their posts are actually
appearing on the list.  However, bounce notices are being received.  Users should ignore
these bounce notices. They can confirm that their message has actually been received by inspecting
the list archives.
>
> NOTE: If posters are reading the list via a secondary service, and their posts are not
being shown there, that is likely where the bounce is actually from.  This message could
be an indication that ooo-users@ i.a.o is not a recognized list somewhere.
>
>  - Dennis
>
> ANALYSIS FOR OOO-DEV ANALYSIS AND INFRASTRUCTURE TROUBLESHOOTING:
>
> These bounce notices have simple text and include the bounced message as an attachment.
>
> I have been receiving these in my Spam folder and I finally noticed.  (Most of my received
bounce messages *are* spam or the result of some spammer misusing my e-mail addresss so I
rarely look at them, especially if any of my messages have been reaching the lists I am subscribed
to.)
>
> I have provided the full headers of one of the bounce messages back to me.  This attachment
was my message of Thursday night (-0700) with subject "Implications for security vulnerability
(CVE-2012-0037).  It can be seen successfully posted to the list at
>
> <http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-users/201203.mbox/%3c008c01cd08af$dd22b230$97681690$@acm.org%3e>
>
> (I see a discrepancy in the time-stamps also.  The list shows date 2012-03-23T04:46:07Z,
My copy from the list is dated as sent on 2012-03-22T21:46-0700 (agreeing with 2012-03-23T04:46Z),
yet  cox.net received the bounce notice from Lanny PC (!?) at 2012-03-23-02:28:25-0400, corresponding
to 2012-03-23T06:28:25Z).  This, and the nature of the message, has me suspect that these
peculiar bounce messages are post-list-arrival and from a downstream special-protocol recipient.
>
>  - - - - - - - These are the headers on the bounce message I received - - - - -
>
> Return-path: <SRS0+6f165d3367e37ed5=B6=incubator.apache.org=mailer-daemon@srs.acm.org>
> [ .... ] Final path irrelevant
> Received: from psmtp.com ([74.125.149.93])
>        by acm26-4.acm.org (ACM Email Forwarding Service) with SMTP id HJA88133
>        for <dennis.hamilton@acm.org>; Fri, 23 Mar 2012 02:29:33 -0400
> Received: from fed1rmfepo203.cox.net ([68.230.241.148]) by na3sys009amx167.postini.com
([74.125.148.10]) with SMTP;
>        Fri, 23 Mar 2012 06:29:32 GMT
> Received: from fed1rmimpo306.cox.net ([68.230.241.174])
>          by fed1rmfepo203.cox.net
>          (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP
>          id <20120323062932.XRYI24333.fed1rmfepo203.cox.net@fed1rmimpo306.cox.net>
>          for <dennis.hamilton@acm.org>; Fri, 23 Mar 2012 02:29:32 -0400
> Received: from Lanny-PC ([70.170.110.212])
>        by fed1rmimpo306.cox.net with bizsmtp
>        id ouUP1i0034b06CN03uUQtt; Fri, 23 Mar 2012 02:28:25 -0400
> X-CT-Class: Clean
> X-CT-Score: 0.00
> X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020201.4F6C184B.00A8,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=256
> X-CT-Spam: 0
> X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=/z6nVqgKJubJSJFLDUxhpnTtIgTQeP8W3J+4y8l5h/4=
>  c=1 sm=1 a=SJIS0OigG-AA:10 a=jksSu5QgSbTtBvHH52dhDQ==:17 a=mV9VRH-2AAAA:8
>  a=knQjgZu5OroMix5nMfYA:9 a=YCs5jFZFAnHFUSHzdFsA:9 a=_4BPYxVLAAAA:8
>  a=-hyCGDrDAAAA:8 a=B6ByjeiWjoBosR4FfqUA:9 a=DpDQOH3bnqWrVRIQN1UA:7
>  a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=93i8w3xbaaYA:10 a=Er2gK3W4G3kA:10
>  a=jksSu5QgSbTtBvHH52dhDQ==:117
> X-CM-Score: 0.00
> Authentication-Results: cox.net; none
> From: "Mail Delivery Subsystem" <MAILER-DAEMON@incubator.apache.org>
> To: Dennis E. Hamilton <dennis.hamilton@acm.org>
> Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
> Auto-submitted: auto-generated (failure)
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-type: multipart/report;
>         report-type=delivery-status;
>        boundary="XGC23002.1275609600/mx1.incubator.apache.org"
> Message-ID: <CHILKAT-MID-5664642a-6e2d-e0ab-cf8d-c488c2f0a436@Lanny-PC>
> Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 02:29:32 -0400
> X-pstn-neptune: 0/0/0.00/0
> X-pstn-levels:     (S:66.88766/99.90000 CV:99.9000 FC:95.5390 LC:95.5390 R:95.9108
P:95.9108 M:97.0282 C:98.6951 )
> X-pstn-dkim: 0 skipped:not-enabled
> X-pstn-settings: 3 (1.0000:1.0000) s cv gt3 gt2 gt1
> X-pstn-addresses: from <MAILER-DAEMON@incubator.apache.org> [271/12]
> The original message was received at Thu, 22 Mar 2012 21:46:34 -0700
> from [68.1.16.123]
>
>  - - - - - - - The Bounce Message I received - - - - - - - -
>
>   ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
> ooo-users@incubator.apache.org
>    (expanded from: ooo-users@incubator.apache.org)
>
>   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
> mail.local: unknown name: ooo-users
> 550 ooo-users@incubator.apache.org... User unknown
>

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