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From Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org>
Subject Re: AOO for Debian
Date Thu, 15 Mar 2012 12:47:25 GMT
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 3:58 AM, eric b <eric.bachard@free.fr> wrote:
> Hello imacat,
>
>
> Disclaimer : apologies if I do not answer regularly, but I don't have much
> of free time at the moment (my day job ...)
>
> Le 15 mars 12 à 00:32, imacat a écrit :
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>>    I was thinking about this, too.
>>
>
>
> Great :-)
>
>
> FYI, OOo4Kids and OOoLight are available under the .deb form, on our own
> unofficial repository (http on EducOOo serverp). We did that, because Debian
> people refused to add OOo4Kids in the Debian build farm, because I (me)
> refused to use LibreOffice sources.  Nothing else, and this is the same
> problem for Apache OpenOffice.
>
> FYI, Ubuntu Mageia, Mandriva blocked us too : while issues asking for
> integration exist, nobody will never do anything serious, and every time
> we'll fit a condition, another will be invented to block again ...
>
> The only nice distribution who accepted us, is ArchLinux, and you can
> install OOo4Kids on it, like you can still install OpenOffice.org on
> ArchLinux if you want.
>
>
> Back to the .deb, the one I build installs perfectly (incuing using apt-get,
> synaptic and so on) in parallel with everything, and caused no trouble until
> now. Both are created the deb way (using dh_make), and I'll explain you how.
>
> The initial work has been done by a student from Epitech Paris, Mathias
> Brunet (alia Kaze, you probably meet on IRC some time ago). Mathias created
> the initial script (was his contribution to EducOOo for his project), and
> since, I maintain it.
>
> The current process is manual, but all this work can certainly be
> automatized and ported to Apache OpenOffice. Nevertheless, we'll need to
> make it more profesional before.
>
>
> First, the desktop part ( in sysui ) is built the same way during the dmake
> process, excepted that we replace /opt with /usr in the install path, and
> add our own stuff.
>
> Second, using installed package format + a new one I named "debian", I build
> final .deb using a shell script. During the process, we modify everything to
> respect the FHS way.
>
> The final archive contains everything, including menu entries.
>
>
> My day job is killing me at the moment, but in two weeks, I'll have more
> free time. Waiting, if you want to work on that, I can forward you
> everything and help you from time to time on IRC.
>
>
>
>
>>    But actually, for this to work, the discussion should be brought to the
>> debian-openoffice@lists.debian.org list, not debian-user@lists.debian.org.
>>  Also we need someone understand how to
>> package .deb packages that follow the Debian policy in order to package
>> AOO by the Debian policy.
>>
>
>
> Long time ago, Rene Engelhard subscribed me to the list, and I know well
> what happens, since I receive everything (a lot of mails indeed .. ). Not
> sure I can post though, but read is ok for me.
>
> And I'm aware of your requests ... and of Rene answers too :-/
>
>
>
>>    For the long term, we should update our build system so it follows
>> the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard (FHS) and meets the requirements of
>> the distributions.
>>
>
>
> IMHO, porting to Debian is not the problem, I got scripts doing this
> already, who could be adapted to Apache OOo (one or two days of work max to
> create an .deb of Apache OO ).
>
>
> The problem is that there is a lobby blocking the process, and avoiding
> Apache OpenOffice being existing in Debian, even on other distributions. The
> only fair distribution who accepted to keep things working (you can stilll
> build OpenOffice.org yourself if you want) is ArchLinux, as I wrote above.
>

I think that is the easy part.  But we need to meet the technical
requirements first.  Otherwise it will look very bad for Debian.  What
next?  Block AbiWord and Gnumeric because they compete with
LibreOffice?

>
> One more time back to ex-Community Members blocking everything coming from
> apache OpenOffice.
>
>
> Regards,
> Eric
>
> --
> qɔᴉɹə
> Projet OOo4Kids : http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/index.php/Main_Page
> L'association EducOOo : http://www.educoo.org
> Blog : http://eric.bachard.org/news
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