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From Hennie Potgieter <pbhj.potgie...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: AOO Web Logos?
Date Sat, 31 Mar 2012 12:35:05 GMT
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On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 4:15 AM, Rob Weir <robweir@apache.org> wrote:

> On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 7:50 PM, drew jensen <drewjensen.inbox@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 2012-03-30 at 09:19 -0700, Kay Schenk wrote:
> > >
> > > On 03/30/2012 06:20 AM, drew jensen wrote:
> > > > On Fri, 2012-03-30 at 08:03 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
> > > >> On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 7:56 PM, Kay Schenk<kay.schenk@gmail.com>
> >  wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Rob Weir<robweir@apache.org>
> >  wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> What is the latest thinking on the AOO logos?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> There is some great material on the wiki:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Application+Branding
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOOLogo+proposal
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Logo+Proposals
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Drew did a lot of initial work here.   But it is not clear
to me
> > > >>>> whether we have a final recommendation, whether the work is
> ongoing,
> > > >>>> etc.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> If we have a design that is considered the one to go with,
could
> > > >>>> someone propose it as the official logo, so we can see if
there
> are
> > > >>>> any objections?  It would be good to get some closure on this.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> yes, I know...I am rather late to this party.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I would be happy to make a proposal to adopt the first banner
on
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Logo+Proposals
> > > >>>
> > > >>> as the "official" web logo, and actually make this change, but...
> > > >>>
> > > >>> where are we with the "incubating" business. Would we have this
in
> > addition
> > > >>> to the current "incubating" logo which we currently have or ???
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I probably have missed other discussions about the "incubating"
> > topic.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >> The incubation requirement is that we have "(incubating)" on the
> > *page*
> > > >> along with the podling disclaimer.  We're not required to have
> > > >> "(incubating)" in the logo.  In fact, some of us have recommended
> > that we
> > > >> do not put "(incubating)" in the logo.  If we can have a "clean"
> logo
> > > >> without that, then we can use the same logo after we graduate.
> > > >
> > > > well, all the artwork I've submitted and I've said this before, is
> > setup
> > > > up with layers - just open it, hide or remove the layer named
> > > > 'incubating' and it's gone.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> Also, I'll feel a little artistic this week, after doing that
> > timeline
> > > >>>> ;-).   So next I'd like to then take the logo design, and
create
> two
> > > >>>> variations that we can use to inform users about the 3.4 release.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> -- a "coming soon" webpage/blog logo that project supporters
may
> put
> > > >>>> on their websites.  It would be linked to a page that we would
> host,
> > > >>>> with FAQ's on AOO 3.4, including information on signing up
for the
> > > >>>> ooo-announce list, etc.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> - a "get AOO" logo, also for supports to use on their own
> websites.
> > > >>>> It would be linked to our download webpage on openoffice.org.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> The nice thing about this approach (which is used by many
other
> > > >>>> projects) is we do not need to give blanket permission for
anyone
> to
> > > >>>> use our main logo for any purpose.  And we don't need to have
them
> > ask
> > > >>>> permission for using our logo for these specific purposes.
We
> > provide
> > > >>>> a special purpose logo to be used for these common things.
> > >
> > > Well I would be happy to do an actual PROPOSAL with Lazy Consensus from
> > > among the following 3 logos on:
> > >
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Logo+Proposals
> > >
> > > * the first logo under the heading
> > > 1.1 Proposed banner logo for the main web site
> > >
> > > * or either of the orb-centric proposals
> > > 2.1 Orb Centric Proposal Logo #1,
> > > 2.2 Orb Centric Proposal Logo #2
> > >
> >
> > Howdy Kay, et al
> >
> > I really think the idea of a community, less restrictive, image makes
> > sense. Looking at what is there then I'd vote for
> >
> > 1.1 to base the official on, and use that specific image for the
> > website. While still in incubating status we can just keep the ASF
> > Incubating graphic in the upper right hand corner, after graduation just
> > drop it.
> >
> > 2.1 to base the community logo on and the specific image as the first
> > entry on a wiki page and htmel snippet, ready for media and supporter
> > use.
> >
> > So for the moment then it is a proposal to use the feather for
> > in-project, or with permission, work and no feather for the less formal
> > usage - does that sound right?
> >
> >
>
> What do you mean by "less formal usage"?  Do you mean use on the project
> blog, the support forums, etc., e.g., in a PMC-directed way?  If so this
> might be fine.  But if you mean that we allow it to be freely used outside
> of the project, then I think 2.1 is much too similar to the official logo,
>
> Ask yourself, would it confuse the public if the logo showed up in an eBay
> action next to a sale of OpenOffice CD's?  Would it confuse the user if it
> shows up on an external page claiming to raise funds?  Would it suggest
> affiliation with the project if it showed up on a 3rd part consultant's
> webpage?
>
> I'm all in favor of a community logo that can be used more broadly, but it
> I think it needs to be more than subtly different than the official logo.
> I think your "download" and "get it here" logos are good examples.  We
> could allow anyone to use these logos in any context, provided it links
> back to download.openoffice.org or www.openoffice.org.  We could also
> allow
> it to be translated (the "download" and "get it here" strings) and link to
> NL pages like de.openoffice.org.
>
>
> > From the 1.1 base then we would need a set of images for use over the
> > next number of months, such a set was in .bz2 file attached to to my
> > first proposal on the wiki. It looks like I should create the same set
> > again based on 1.1 - will get to it and add a new archive file to the
> > wiki.
> >
> > @Kevin, Graham, everyone :) - would welcome any thoughts on what basic
> > set of images are needed.
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > //drew
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Rob, given your explanation, I'm assuming we would keep the
> > > "(incubating)" wording next to the logo as we have now.
> > >
> > > Re your other comments...the "Coming soon" logo does sound like a
> > > nice/worthwhile idea. Something we can work on soonish...
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> -Rob
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> --
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> >
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >>> MzK
> > > >>>
> > > >>> "Women and cats will do as they please,
> > > >>>   and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea."
> > > >>>
> > --
> > > >>> Robert Heinlein
> > > >>>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > MzK
> > >
> > > "Women and cats will do as they please,
> > >   and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea."
> > >                                      -- Robert Heinlein
> >
> >
> >
>

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