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From Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Web page for NL communities ?
Date Tue, 20 Mar 2012 21:51:35 GMT
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2wave@comcast.net> wrote:

>
> On Mar 19, 2012, at 4:59 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 6:52 PM, Kay Schenk <kay.schenk@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Kay Schenk <kay.schenk@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:26 AM, Rob Weir <robweir@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Kay Schenk <kay.schenk@gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 6:30 AM, Rob Weir <robweir@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> We currently have a web page that lists all of our mailing lists:
> >>>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/mailing-lists.html
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> However, the native language lists that we're creating recently
are
> >>>>>> not there.  And I think adding them to that page would not be
the
> best
> >>>>>> approach.  I wonder if it would be better to highlight these
> >>>>>> communities on their own page.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> So something like this:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On our podling page here:
> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Add new page under Community called "Native Language Communities"
or
> >>>>>> maybe something a little shorter.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This sounds like a lovely  idea!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On that page, explain a little what these groups are and are
not.
> >>>>>> They are not separate Apache projects, but are "interest groups"
or
> >>>>>> "language sections" within the AOO project, concentrating on
native
> >>>>>> language support, localization, marketing efforts, etc.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Then have a table listing the languages and the mailing lists.
We
> >>>>>> could also have links to the website, e.g., de.openoffice.org.
If
> >>>>>> there are official social media accounts used by that community
(a
> >>>>>> Facebook page ot Twitter account, for example) we could link
to
> those
> >>>>>> as well.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It might be easiest, considering the state we're in with the NL
> mailing
> >>>>> lists right now, to document these on a wiki page, and just link
to
> THAT
> >>>>> from the  new NL info page you suggest.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Wiki is fine also.  Personally, I prefer the Apache CMS and mdtext
> >>>> over Confluence wiki. It is easier to make a good looking page that
> >>>> has a consistent style with the rest of the site.  But as Emerson
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by
> >>>> little statesmen and philosophers and divines. With consistency a
> >>>> great soul has simply nothing to do. He may as well concern himself
> >>>> with his shadow on the wall. Speak what you think today in hard words,
> >>>> and tomorrow speak what tomorrow thinks in hard words again, though
it
> >>>> contradict every thing you said today."
> >>>>
> >>>> So inconsistency is fine with me as well.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Well it would certainly be easier for the mailing list "requestors" to
> >>> update a wiki page once their request had been processed, and then
> link the
> >>> web site page *TO* that I think. I will start this page, and hopefully
> >>> folks will update.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> I've seen messages/setups go by for the new mailing lists, but
> >>>> honestly, I
> >>>>> have not been paying close attention.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I think we have current or requested lists for Japanese, German,
> >>>> Italian, Spanish, Brazilian Portuguese and French.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> This is what I've found so far...
> >>>
> >>> ooo-users-de
> >>> ooo-general-ja
> >>> ooo-geral-ptbr
> >>> ooo-general-es
> >>> ooo-utenti-it
> >>> ooo-progetto-it
> >>>
> >>> OK, I'll get started on this.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Well this took a bit more time than I expected, but we now have a
> "Native
> >> Language" area on the podling web site --
> >>
> >> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/
> >>
> >
> > This looks good.  Thanks.
> >
> >> Since we have few native language mailing lists right now, I guess not a
> >> problem with just listing them here. And thanks to Kazunari Hirano for
> >> pointing me what had already been discussed and the planning wiki page.
> >>
> >> I have yet to edit the existing Native Language page on the web server.
> >> Instead of just deleting the current project leads, though, I'm
> thinking of
> >> just changing the header to "Former Project Lead" in case someone (else)
> >> want s to contact that person. Thoughts on this?
> >>
> >
> > Are we sure that the former leads actually want to be contacted?
>
> Some from sweden requested that their names be removed. I have no problem
> with removal.
>
> >    It
> > may be more useful for a visitor to be directed to your new page.
>
> It would be useful to link to Kay's new page from the existing page. We
> have someone named Kevin Sisco who is working on a new version. We are
> waiting to see.
>

Well, OK, I will do that -- i.e. link the new "project NL" page from the
old page in the next day or so.



>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
>
> >
> > -Rob
> >
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>> If someone could create this new wiki page, I would happy to create
> the
> >>>>> front-end for it (and figure out how to modify the project menu).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thoughts?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -Rob
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>> MzK
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "Follow your bliss."
> >>>>>         -- attributed to Joseph Campbell
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> MzK
> >>>
> >>> "Follow your bliss."
> >>>          -- attributed to Joseph Campbell
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> MzK
> >>
> >> "Follow your bliss."
> >>         -- attributed to Joseph Campbell
>
>


-- 
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MzK

"Follow your bliss."
         -- attributed to Joseph Campbell

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