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From Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: update service - proposal for temporary solution until AOO 3.4 is released.
Date Wed, 21 Mar 2012 22:06:41 GMT
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 1:06 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2wave@comcast.net> wrote:

>
> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:09 AM, Kay Schenk wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 1:48 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann <
> > orwittmann@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >>
> >> On 21.03.2012 00:33, Kay Schenk wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Kay Schenk<kay.schenk@gmail.com>
>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Dave Fisher<dave2wave@comcast.net
> >**
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Mar 20, 2012, at 9:45 AM, Kay Schenk wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile
> >>>>>> <arielch@apache.org>wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi Kay,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 03:42:22PM -0700, Kay Schenk wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Well interesting...I did some editing of versionrc and
now I get
> that
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> an
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> update does not exist  after pulling off the pkgfmt=rpm requirement.
> >>>>>>>> However, we can not expect users of existing product
to go messing
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> with
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> their existing setups (i.e. editing files). I don't mind the
odd
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> message
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> was getting before about an "rpm" package not being
found.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I'm just wondering if there's some way to configure
the snippet
> you
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> sent
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> just do something a bit more friendly for all possible
situations
> >>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> are
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> currently out there now.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thoughts? Any experts on how to create a generic null
feed?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I tried with my original empty xml file (not a feed) and
it works
> as
> >>>>>>> expected with every combination:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> UpdateURL=
> >>>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~**arielch/ProductUpdateService/**
> >>>>>>> check.Update<
> http://people.apache.org/%7Earielch/ProductUpdateService/check.Update>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> UpdateURL=
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~**arielch/ProductUpdateService/**
> >>>>> check.Update?pkgfmt=rpm<
> http://people.apache.org/%7Earielch/ProductUpdateService/check.Update?pkgfmt=rpm
> >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> UpdateURL=
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~**arielch/ProductUpdateService/**
> >>>>> check.Update?pkgfmt=deb<
> http://people.apache.org/%7Earielch/ProductUpdateService/check.Update?pkgfmt=deb
> >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> UpdateURL=
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~**arielch/ProductUpdateService/**
> >>>>> check.Update?pkgfmt=dmg<
> http://people.apache.org/%7Earielch/ProductUpdateService/check.Update?pkgfmt=dmg
> >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I can't see why it does not work for you.
> >>>>>>> Please try pointing the UpdateURL to this file
> >>>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~**arielch/ProductUpdateService/**
> >>>>>>> check.Update<
> http://people.apache.org/%7Earielch/ProductUpdateService/check.Update>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> Ariel Constenla-Haile
> >>>>>>> La Plata, Argentina
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> Well, foo, when I do this replacement, it does work as you say!
> Darn!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> OK,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> let me re-investigate why the other snippet with my internal
host
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> redirect
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> isn't working quite right! :(
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> How are doing this redirect?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regards,
> >>>>> Dave
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> I've got the following in my local /etc/hosts
> >>>>
> >>>> 140.211.11.131  update36.services.openoffice.**org<
> http://update36.services.openoffice.org>
> >>>>
> >>>> here are versions I've played with in "versionrc" (I split the lines
> for
> >>>> easier reading for you)
> >>>>
> >>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++**+++
> >>>> [Version]
> >>>> AllLanguages=en-US
> >>>> buildid=330m20(Build:9567)
> >>>> ExtensionUpdateURL=
> >>>> http://updateexte.services.**openoffice.org/**
> >>>> ExtensionUpdateService/check.**Update<
> http://updateexte.services.openoffice.org/ExtensionUpdateService/check.Update
> >
> >>>> OOOBaseVersion=3.3
> >>>> ProductBuildid=9567
> >>>> ProductMajor=330
> >>>> ProductMinor=20
> >>>> ProductSource=OOO330
> >>>> UpdateID=OpenOffice.org_3_en-**US
> >>>>
> >>>> #UpdateURL=
> >>>> http://update36.services.**
> openoffice.org/**ProductUpdateService/check.*
> >>>> *Update?pkgfmt=rpm<
> http://update36.services.openoffice.org/ProductUpdateService/check.Update?pkgfmt=rpm
> >
> >>>>
> >>>> UpdateURL=
> >>>> http://update36.services.**
> openoffice.org/**ProductUpdateService/check.*
> >>>> *Update<
> http://update36.services.openoffice.org/ProductUpdateService/check.Update>
> >>>>
> >>>> #UpdateURL=
> >>>> http://people.apache.org/~**arielch/ProductUpdateService/**
> >>>> check.Update?pkgfmt=rpm<
> http://people.apache.org/%7Earielch/ProductUpdateService/check.Update?pkgfmt=rpm
> >
> >>>>
> >>>> UpdateUserAgent=<PRODUCT>  (${buildid}; ${_OS}; ${_ARCH};
> >>>> BundledLanguages=${**AllLanguages})
> >>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++**++++
> >>>>
> >>>> using Ariel's returns "no update". Using the current one with the
> >>>> redirect
> >>>> returns the error business. (i mean it connects but I get a different
> >>>> message, a failed...)
> >>>>
> >>>> Things of note vis a vis people.apache.org vs www.openoffice.org(where
> >>>> I
> >>>> have the current re-route)
> >>>>
> >>>> If you just bring up:
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.openoffice.org/**ProductUpdateService/check.**Update<
> http://www.openoffice.org/ProductUpdateService/check.Update>
> >>>>
> >>>> vs
> >>>>
> >>>>
> http://people.apache.org/~**arielch/ProductUpdateService/**check.Update<
> http://people.apache.org/%7Earielch/ProductUpdateService/check.Update>
> >>>>
> >>>> they look different in my browser...one has "UTF-8" vs "utf-8"
> >>>>
> >>>> so I'm curious about this. I did up a little cgi and ran it on both
> >>>> people.apache.org and well, ooo-site-staging.apache.org and they both
> >>>> produce the same environment info.  So ???
> >>>>
> >>>> http://people.apache.org/~**kschenk/cgi-bin/env.cgi<
> http://people.apache.org/%7Ekschenk/cgi-bin/env.cgi>
> >>>> http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/cgi-bin/env.cgi<
> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/cgi-bin/env.cgi>
> >>>>
> >>>> I will change the "UTF-8" to "utf-8" on www.openoffice.org and see
> what
> >>>> happens. Also did a diff on them and nothing but the case business.
> >>>>
> >>>> Meanwhile -- do you know how we get cgi to run on www.openoffice.org?
> I
> >>>> see we have a directory for this. I dumped some test scripts in it,
> but
> >>>> www.openoffice.org/cgi-bin/h.**cgi<
> http://www.openoffice.org/cgi-bin/h.cgi>(Hello World) preoduces nothing.
> :(
> >>>>
> >>>> If not, I will get in touch with INFRA.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> a final note on this...if I directly put
> >>>
> >>> UpdateURL=http://www.**openoffice.org/**ProductUpdateService/check.**
> >>> Update <http://www.openoffice.org/ProductUpdateService/check.Update><
> >>> http://people.apache.**org/%7Earielch/**ProductUpdateService/check.**
> >>> Update?pkgfmt=rpm<
> http://people.apache.org/%7Earielch/ProductUpdateService/check.Update?pkgfmt=rpm
> >
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> in my versionrc file, it works per Ariel's comments -- 'No Update
> >>> Available".
> >>>
> >>> However, my redirect via /etc/hosts causes the weird result. So maybe
> >>> something is not quite right with this (???)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >> It looks like your local 'redirection' does not work.
> >>
> >
> > yes...I know! :(
> >
> >
> >>
> >> You can check your 'redirection' in your browser.
> >>
> >> On my system (Windows 7) I observe the following:
> >> - browsing to www.openoffice.org/**ProductUpdateService/check.**Update<
> http://www.openoffice.org/ProductUpdateService/check.Update>using FireFox
> shows me the XML snippet.
> >> - a ping to www.openoffice.org reveals IP address 140.211.11.131.
> >> - browsing to 140.211.11.131/**ProductUpdateService/check.**Update<
> http://140.211.11.131/ProductUpdateService/check.Update>using FireFox
> return "404 Not Found".
> >>
> >
> > mine also...
> >
> >
> >> - browsing to 140.211.11.311 using FireFox shows ASF main page.
> >> - adapting my ...\etc\hosts file as you have done and browsing to
> >> update36.services.openoffice.**org/ProductUpdateService/**check.Update<
> http://update36.services.openoffice.org/ProductUpdateService/check.Update>using
> FireFox results in a connection time stating the standard message
> >> which is headed by "The connection was reset" - the same you got when
> you
> >> browse to a non-existing server
> >>
> >
> > This is what I got when I browsed to
> > update36.services.openoffice.org/ProductUpdateService/check.Update with
> my
> > redirection in place...
> >
> > * URL redirected to:
> >
> http://openoffice.org/projects/update36/ProductUpdateService/check.Update
>
> The redirect should goto
> http://openoffice.org/ProductUpdateService/check.Update
>
> Ask Infra to change.
>
> Or, add projects/update36 to ooo-site and move/copy the
> ProductUpdateServices/check.Update to that location.
>
>
yes...I'm just about to do this one above and do some tests...

I will open up an "official" [DISCUSSION] on this tomorrow...


>
> >
> > ???? which yielded a "404 not found"
> >
> > OK, I will continue investigating.
> >
> > - reverting the change to my ...\etc\hosts and performing a ping to
> >> update36.services.openoffice.**org<
> http://update36.services.openoffice.org>outputs the following:
> >> <output>
> >> $ ping update36.services.openoffice.**org<
> http://update36.services.openoffice.org>
> >>
> >> Pinging sd-web2.staroffice.de [192.18.197.109] with 32 bytes of data:
> >> Request timed out.
> >> Request timed out.
> >> Request timed out.
> >> Request timed out.
> >>
> >
> > right, this server is dead
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Ping statistics for 192.18.197.109:
> >>   Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),
> >> </output>
> >>
> >>
> >> Best regards, Oliver.
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > MzK
> >
> > "Follow your bliss."
> >         -- attributed to Joseph Campbell
>
>


-- 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
MzK

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 and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea."
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