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From Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Web page for NL communities ?
Date Tue, 20 Mar 2012 21:51:15 GMT
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Rob Weir <robweir@apache.org> wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 6:52 PM, Kay Schenk <kay.schenk@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Kay Schenk <kay.schenk@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:26 AM, Rob Weir <robweir@apache.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Kay Schenk <kay.schenk@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 6:30 AM, Rob Weir <robweir@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >> We currently have a web page that lists all of our mailing lists:
> >>> >> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/mailing-lists.html
> >>> >>
> >>> >> However, the native language lists that we're creating recently
are
> >>> >> not there.  And I think adding them to that page would not be the
> best
> >>> >> approach.  I wonder if it would be better to highlight these
> >>> >> communities on their own page.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> So something like this:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> On our podling page here:
> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Add new page under Community called "Native Language Communities"
or
> >>> >> maybe something a little shorter.
> >>> >>
> >>> >
> >>> > This sounds like a lovely  idea!
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >>
> >>> >> On that page, explain a little what these groups are and are not.
> >>> >> They are not separate Apache projects, but are "interest groups"
or
> >>> >> "language sections" within the AOO project, concentrating on native
> >>> >> language support, localization, marketing efforts, etc.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Then have a table listing the languages and the mailing lists.
We
> >>> >> could also have links to the website, e.g., de.openoffice.org.
If
> >>> >> there are official social media accounts used by that community
(a
> >>> >> Facebook page ot Twitter account, for example) we could link to
> those
> >>> >> as well.
> >>> >>
> >>> >
> >>> > It might be easiest, considering the state we're in with the NL
> mailing
> >>> > lists right now, to document these on a wiki page, and just link to
> THAT
> >>> > from the  new NL info page you suggest.
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>> Wiki is fine also.  Personally, I prefer the Apache CMS and mdtext
> >>> over Confluence wiki. It is easier to make a good looking page that
> >>> has a consistent style with the rest of the site.  But as Emerson
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by
> >>> little statesmen and philosophers and divines. With consistency a
> >>> great soul has simply nothing to do. He may as well concern himself
> >>> with his shadow on the wall. Speak what you think today in hard words,
> >>> and tomorrow speak what tomorrow thinks in hard words again, though it
> >>> contradict every thing you said today."
> >>>
> >>> So inconsistency is fine with me as well.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Well it would certainly be easier for the mailing list "requestors" to
> >> update a wiki page once their request had been processed, and then link
> the
> >> web site page *TO* that I think. I will start this page, and hopefully
> >> folks will update.
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> > I've seen messages/setups go by for the new mailing lists, but
> >>> honestly, I
> >>> > have not been paying close attention.
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>> I think we have current or requested lists for Japanese, German,
> >>> Italian, Spanish, Brazilian Portuguese and French.
> >>>
> >>
> >> This is what I've found so far...
> >>
> >> ooo-users-de
> >> ooo-general-ja
> >> ooo-geral-ptbr
> >> ooo-general-es
> >> ooo-utenti-it
> >> ooo-progetto-it
> >>
> >> OK, I'll get started on this.
> >>
> >
> > Well this took a bit more time than I expected, but we now have a "Native
> > Language" area on the podling web site --
> >
> > http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/
> >
>
> This looks good.  Thanks.
>
> > Since we have few native language mailing lists right now, I guess not a
> > problem with just listing them here. And thanks to Kazunari Hirano for
> > pointing me what had already been discussed and the planning wiki page.
> >
> > I have yet to edit the existing Native Language page on the web server.
> > Instead of just deleting the current project leads, though, I'm thinking
> of
> > just changing the header to "Former Project Lead" in case someone (else)
> > want s to contact that person. Thoughts on this?
> >
>
> Are we sure that the former leads actually want to be contacted?    It
> may be more useful for a visitor to be directed to your new page.
>

I guess I was thinking if someone new from one of the areas was thinking
about stepping up they might want to contact the former lead -- but, then
again, maybe not. Really I don't have a problem with removing the former
project leads. Louis is still the point guy on the info page, so maybe
that's good enough.


>
> -Rob
>
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> > If someone could create this new wiki page, I would happy to create
> the
> >>> > front-end for it (and figure out how to modify the project menu).
> >>> >
> >>> > Thoughts?
> >>> >
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> -Rob
> >>> >>
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > --
> >>> >
> >>>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> > MzK
> >>> >
> >>> > "Follow your bliss."
> >>> >         -- attributed to Joseph Campbell
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> MzK
> >>
> >> "Follow your bliss."
> >>          -- attributed to Joseph Campbell
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > MzK
> >
> > "Follow your bliss."
> >         -- attributed to Joseph Campbell
>



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"Follow your bliss."
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