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From Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net>
Subject Re: [BZ] Disable the "release blocker" flag to be used only by everyone (was Re: [RELEASE] Bug 118098 - Text box filled with zeroes)
Date Fri, 02 Mar 2012 23:02:49 GMT

On Mar 2, 2012, at 2:46 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:

> Am 03/02/2012 11:30 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
>> On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Marcus (OOo)<marcus.mail@wtnet.de>  wrote:
>>> Am 03/02/2012 10:49 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 4:34 PM, Marcus (OOo)<marcus.mail@wtnet.de>
   wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> In order prevent this cleanup task again and again (for the next weeks,
>>>>> new
>>>>> releases, etc.)
>>>>> 
>>>>> -and-
>>>>> 
>>>>> To take the discussions into this ML and out of our BZ.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is it possible to disable the "release blocker" flag for everyone's use?
>>>>> When only a few people can set the flag to "+" then we can discuss first
>>>>> on
>>>>> the ML and when we have consensus it will be set to "+".
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Right now only those in the "relman" group can +grant or -deny the
>>>> "release blocker" flag.  There are only 8 people in that group right
>>>> now.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> OK, then it was maybe just a subjective feeling that the flag was more
>>> stressed than necessary in the last few days/weeks. Or there is at least a
>>> difference between the "?" and the "+" / "-" status.
>>> 
>> 
>> Many of us are working together for the first time.  So it is likely
>> that we don't even all agree on what a "release blocker" means.  If we
>> agreed on criteria, then I think there would be fewer issues like
>> this. But maybe having these discussions is how we converge on an
>> understanding of what a blocking issue is?
> 
> Then there is short way out: ;-)
> 
> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Stopper
> 
> When we can agree on these criteria, the sorting of release blocker will be easier and
faster.

Looks like reasonable criteria to me.

BTW - the part under "How to promote/nominate a Stopper issue" will need to be rewritten.

Regards,
Dave


> 
> Marcus
> 
> 
> 
>>>> Anyone in the "canconfirm" group is able to request this flag.  Not
>>>> everyone is a member of "canconfirm".  There are only 559 members,
>>>> mainly those who had elevated permissions in the legacy BZ instance.
>>>> It also includes everyone with an Apache email address.
>>>> 
>>>> So I think we're doing what you are suggesting.  We're discussing the
>>>> bugs where someone has requested "release blocker" status, and then
>>>> decided whether to grant or deny that status.
>>>> 
>>>>> What do you think?
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Discuss now, discuss later, it is all the same thing, right?
>>>> 
>>>> -Rob
>>>> 
>>>>> Marcus
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Am 03/02/2012 02:38 PM, schrieb Oliver-Rainer Wittmann:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> P.S.: Sorry for the noise regarding our potential release blockers,
but
>>>>>> I am trying to get an overview about the release blockers which we
need
>>>>>> to fix for our AOO 3.4 release.


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