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From Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net>
Subject Re: Web page for NL communities ?
Date Tue, 20 Mar 2012 00:08:34 GMT

On Mar 19, 2012, at 4:59 PM, Rob Weir wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 6:52 PM, Kay Schenk <kay.schenk@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Kay Schenk <kay.schenk@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:26 AM, Rob Weir <robweir@apache.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Kay Schenk <kay.schenk@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 6:30 AM, Rob Weir <robweir@apache.org>
wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> We currently have a web page that lists all of our mailing lists:
>>>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/mailing-lists.html
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> However, the native language lists that we're creating recently are
>>>>>> not there.  And I think adding them to that page would not be the
best
>>>>>> approach.  I wonder if it would be better to highlight these
>>>>>> communities on their own page.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So something like this:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On our podling page here:  http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Add new page under Community called "Native Language Communities"
or
>>>>>> maybe something a little shorter.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> This sounds like a lovely  idea!
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On that page, explain a little what these groups are and are not.
>>>>>> They are not separate Apache projects, but are "interest groups"
or
>>>>>> "language sections" within the AOO project, concentrating on native
>>>>>> language support, localization, marketing efforts, etc.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Then have a table listing the languages and the mailing lists. We
>>>>>> could also have links to the website, e.g., de.openoffice.org. If
>>>>>> there are official social media accounts used by that community (a
>>>>>> Facebook page ot Twitter account, for example) we could link to those
>>>>>> as well.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> It might be easiest, considering the state we're in with the NL mailing
>>>>> lists right now, to document these on a wiki page, and just link to THAT
>>>>> from the  new NL info page you suggest.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Wiki is fine also.  Personally, I prefer the Apache CMS and mdtext
>>>> over Confluence wiki. It is easier to make a good looking page that
>>>> has a consistent style with the rest of the site.  But as Emerson
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by
>>>> little statesmen and philosophers and divines. With consistency a
>>>> great soul has simply nothing to do. He may as well concern himself
>>>> with his shadow on the wall. Speak what you think today in hard words,
>>>> and tomorrow speak what tomorrow thinks in hard words again, though it
>>>> contradict every thing you said today."
>>>> 
>>>> So inconsistency is fine with me as well.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Well it would certainly be easier for the mailing list "requestors" to
>>> update a wiki page once their request had been processed, and then link the
>>> web site page *TO* that I think. I will start this page, and hopefully
>>> folks will update.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> I've seen messages/setups go by for the new mailing lists, but
>>>> honestly, I
>>>>> have not been paying close attention.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I think we have current or requested lists for Japanese, German,
>>>> Italian, Spanish, Brazilian Portuguese and French.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> This is what I've found so far...
>>> 
>>> ooo-users-de
>>> ooo-general-ja
>>> ooo-geral-ptbr
>>> ooo-general-es
>>> ooo-utenti-it
>>> ooo-progetto-it
>>> 
>>> OK, I'll get started on this.
>>> 
>> 
>> Well this took a bit more time than I expected, but we now have a "Native
>> Language" area on the podling web site --
>> 
>> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/
>> 
> 
> This looks good.  Thanks.
> 
>> Since we have few native language mailing lists right now, I guess not a
>> problem with just listing them here. And thanks to Kazunari Hirano for
>> pointing me what had already been discussed and the planning wiki page.
>> 
>> I have yet to edit the existing Native Language page on the web server.
>> Instead of just deleting the current project leads, though, I'm thinking of
>> just changing the header to "Former Project Lead" in case someone (else)
>> want s to contact that person. Thoughts on this?
>> 
> 
> Are we sure that the former leads actually want to be contacted?

Some from sweden requested that their names be removed. I have no problem with removal.

>    It
> may be more useful for a visitor to be directed to your new page.

It would be useful to link to Kay's new page from the existing page. We have someone named
Kevin Sisco who is working on a new version. We are waiting to see.

Regards,
Dave


> 
> -Rob
> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> If someone could create this new wiki page, I would happy to create the
>>>>> front-end for it (and figure out how to modify the project menu).
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -Rob
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> 
>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> MzK
>>>>> 
>>>>> "Follow your bliss."
>>>>>         -- attributed to Joseph Campbell
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> 
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> MzK
>>> 
>>> "Follow your bliss."
>>>          -- attributed to Joseph Campbell
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> MzK
>> 
>> "Follow your bliss."
>>         -- attributed to Joseph Campbell


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