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From Dave Fisher <>
Subject Re: Is any one here familiar with OpenOffice?
Date Mon, 12 Mar 2012 21:49:21 GMT

On Mar 12, 2012, at 1:07 PM, Rob Weir wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Pedro Giffuni <> wrote:
>> On 03/12/12 14:48, Rob Weir wrote:
>>> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Pedro Giffuni<>  wrote:
>>>> On 03/12/12 13:42, Rob Weir wrote:
>>>>> I'm not suggesting we argue with anyone.  I'm suggesting we make
>>>>> truthful positive statements about this project and the experience
>>>>> level of its participants.
>>>> FWIW, and just my humble opinion ...
>>>> I don't think we should spend time discussing such arguments
>>>> when we have the one instrument that defines the true
>>>> continuation of the project, namely .
>>> Oh, I'm sure we all have our own preferred ways of doing this.  The
>>> nice thing is that they are not mutually exclusive. We only need to
>>> agree to be accurate and positive.   We don't need to agree on a
>>> narrow set of specific communications. Some volunteers might work
>>> better with HTML, others with YouTube videos, others with graphics.
>>> Let's find more ways of saying "yes and"  instead of "no, but".
>>> -Rob
>> You didn't get it: the channel matters.
>> If a blog from the Apache Foundation says "OpenOffice is not
>> dead" and a blog from TDF says " is dead",
>> well ... both can be wrong or right ...
>> OTOH, If the says "alive and kicking" the
>> message is way more credible.
> So that is a "yes, and" statement.  Yes, let's do the home page, and
> the other things as well, if we have volunteers to do them. They work
> together.  Certainly the home page gets a lot of traffic, so it can
> reinforce a message.
>> This said ... I don't feel confident enough to modify the
>> main page: if I, for example, screw things up badly and
>> want to revert my changes, can I do that easily in
>> Apache CMS?
> It may depend on whether you want to change only the main index.html
> page, or change the repeated page elements that appear on every page.
> Dave would know how far you can go without forcing a complete rebuild.

We now use Server Side Includes and there are no longer any sledgehammer builds.

I have a notion to make it easy to add news to the main page. The buttons are a current issue
on the main page and the downloads.

It is safe to change/update news stories using the Apache CMS Bookmarklet directly from
If you are not a committer then you can create a patch.


> -Rob
>> cheers,
>> Pedro.

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