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From Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: AOO Web Logos?
Date Fri, 30 Mar 2012 23:39:45 GMT


On 03/30/2012 04:15 PM, drew wrote:
> On Fri, 2012-03-30 at 15:52 -0700, Kay Schenk wrote:
>> On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Kay Schenk<kay.schenk@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 03/30/2012 06:20 AM, drew jensen wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 2012-03-30 at 08:03 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 7:56 PM, Kay Schenk<kay.schenk@gmail.com>
>>>>>   wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>   On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Rob Weir<robweir@apache.org>
  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   What is the latest thinking on the AOO logos?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is some great material on the wiki:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**
>>>>>> Application+Branding<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Application+Branding>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**
>>>>>>> AOOLogo+proposal<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOOLogo+proposal>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**
>>>>>>> Logo+Proposals<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Logo+Proposals>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Drew did a lot of initial work here.   But it is not clear to
me
>>>>>>> whether we have a final recommendation, whether the work is ongoing,
>>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If we have a design that is considered the one to go with, could
>>>>>>> someone propose it as the official logo, so we can see if there
are
>>>>>>> any objections?  It would be good to get some closure on this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> yes, I know...I am rather late to this party.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would be happy to make a proposal to adopt the first banner on
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**Logo+Proposals<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Logo+Proposals>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> as the "official" web logo, and actually make this change, but...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> where are we with the "incubating" business. Would we have this in
>>>>>> addition
>>>>>> to the current "incubating" logo which we currently have or ???
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I probably have missed other discussions about the "incubating" topic.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> The incubation requirement is that we have "(incubating)" on the *page*
>>>>> along with the podling disclaimer.  We're not required to have
>>>>> "(incubating)" in the logo.  In fact, some of us have recommended that
we
>>>>> do not put "(incubating)" in the logo.  If we can have a "clean" logo
>>>>> without that, then we can use the same logo after we graduate.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> well, all the artwork I've submitted and I've said this before, is setup
>>>> up with layers - just open it, hide or remove the layer named
>>>> 'incubating' and it's gone.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>   Also, I'll feel a little artistic this week, after doing that timeline
>>>>>>> ;-).   So next I'd like to then take the logo design, and create
two
>>>>>>> variations that we can use to inform users about the 3.4 release.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -- a "coming soon" webpage/blog logo that project supporters
may put
>>>>>>> on their websites.  It would be linked to a page that we would
host,
>>>>>>> with FAQ's on AOO 3.4, including information on signing up for
the
>>>>>>> ooo-announce list, etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - a "get AOO" logo, also for supports to use on their own websites.
>>>>>>> It would be linked to our download webpage on openoffice.org.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The nice thing about this approach (which is used by many other
>>>>>>> projects) is we do not need to give blanket permission for anyone
to
>>>>>>> use our main logo for any purpose.  And we don't need to have
them ask
>>>>>>> permission for using our logo for these specific purposes. We
provide
>>>>>>> a special purpose logo to be used for these common things.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>> Well I would be happy to do an actual PROPOSAL with Lazy Consensus from
>>> among the following 3 logos on:
>>>
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**Logo+Proposals<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Logo+Proposals>
>>>
>>> * the first logo under the heading
>>> 1.1 Proposed banner logo for the main web site
>>>
>>> * or either of the orb-centric proposals
>>> 2.1 Orb Centric Proposal Logo #1,
>>> 2.2 Orb Centric Proposal Logo #2
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rob, given your explanation, I'm assuming we would keep the "(incubating)"
>>> wording next to the logo as we have now.
>>>
>>> Re your other comments...the "Coming soon" logo does sound like a
>>> nice/worthwhile idea. Something we can work on soonish...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>   Hi all  --
>>
>> I just noticed  on:
>> http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs.html#graphics
>>
>> that use of the "Apache feather" requires the  "TM" symbol so...maybe Drew
>> or someone graphically inclined could do this to that first logo on
>
> Hi Kay,
>
> I'd think the intent of the line:
> "For the project's official logo (if it has one, and especially if it
> uses the ASF feather), ensure that it includes a small "TM" symbol in
> the graphic or immediately adjacent to it."
>
> is not requiring the tm be adjacent to the feather glyph but the
> official project designator, which I think, looking at the page again
> just now, all of the images do. They certainly all include use of the tm
> marking within the full image.
>
> But I'll do what it takes to follow the groups thought on this.
>
> //drew

ah! OK, I think you may be right! All right then, no problem! and thanks 
for responding so quickly.

>
>
>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Logo+Proposals
>>
>>    We can take a vote without it but it would need to be changed before use.
>>
>> Also, I was trying to find if there were any restrictions on graphic type
>> -- png vs jpg etc. I can't find anything but just thought I'd ask. The orb
>> centric logos are jpg but could presumable be converted if needed.
>
>
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> -Rob
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------**------------------------------**
>>>>>> ----------------------------
>>>>>> MzK
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Women and cats will do as they please,
>>>>>>   and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea."
>>>>>>                                                                 
   --
>>>>>> Robert Heinlein
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> --
>>> ------------------------------**------------------------------**
>>> ------------
>>> MzK
>>>
>>> "Women and cats will do as they please,
>>>   and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea."
>>>                                     -- Robert Heinlein
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

-- 
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MzK

"Women and cats will do as they please,
  and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea."
                                     -- Robert Heinlein

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