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From "Marcus (OOo)" <marcus.m...@wtnet.de>
Subject Re: [BZ] Disable the "release blocker" flag to be used only by everyone (was Re: [RELEASE] Bug 118098 - Text box filled with zeroes)
Date Fri, 02 Mar 2012 22:46:03 GMT
Am 03/02/2012 11:30 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
> On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Marcus (OOo)<marcus.mail@wtnet.de>  wrote:
>> Am 03/02/2012 10:49 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 4:34 PM, Marcus (OOo)<marcus.mail@wtnet.de>    wrote:
>>>>
>>>> In order prevent this cleanup task again and again (for the next weeks,
>>>> new
>>>> releases, etc.)
>>>>
>>>> -and-
>>>>
>>>> To take the discussions into this ML and out of our BZ.
>>>>
>>>> Is it possible to disable the "release blocker" flag for everyone's use?
>>>> When only a few people can set the flag to "+" then we can discuss first
>>>> on
>>>> the ML and when we have consensus it will be set to "+".
>>>>
>>>
>>> Right now only those in the "relman" group can +grant or -deny the
>>> "release blocker" flag.  There are only 8 people in that group right
>>> now.
>>
>>
>> OK, then it was maybe just a subjective feeling that the flag was more
>> stressed than necessary in the last few days/weeks. Or there is at least a
>> difference between the "?" and the "+" / "-" status.
>>
>
> Many of us are working together for the first time.  So it is likely
> that we don't even all agree on what a "release blocker" means.  If we
> agreed on criteria, then I think there would be fewer issues like
> this. But maybe having these discussions is how we converge on an
> understanding of what a blocking issue is?

Then there is short way out: ;-)

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Stopper

When we can agree on these criteria, the sorting of release blocker will 
be easier and faster.

Marcus



>>> Anyone in the "canconfirm" group is able to request this flag.  Not
>>> everyone is a member of "canconfirm".  There are only 559 members,
>>> mainly those who had elevated permissions in the legacy BZ instance.
>>> It also includes everyone with an Apache email address.
>>>
>>> So I think we're doing what you are suggesting.  We're discussing the
>>> bugs where someone has requested "release blocker" status, and then
>>> decided whether to grant or deny that status.
>>>
>>>> What do you think?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Discuss now, discuss later, it is all the same thing, right?
>>>
>>> -Rob
>>>
>>>> Marcus
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 03/02/2012 02:38 PM, schrieb Oliver-Rainer Wittmann:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> P.S.: Sorry for the noise regarding our potential release blockers, but
>>>>> I am trying to get an overview about the release blockers which we need
>>>>> to fix for our AOO 3.4 release.

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