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From "Dennis E. Hamilton" <>
Subject [LIST MAIL] False Bounces from ooo-users
Date Fri, 23 Mar 2012 16:42:30 GMT
Posters to ooo-users@ i.a.o are receiving false bounce notices.  Their posts are actually appearing
on the list.  However, bounce notices are being received.  Users should ignore these bounce
notices. They can confirm that their message has actually been received by inspecting the
list archives.

NOTE: If posters are reading the list via a secondary service, and their posts are not being
shown there, that is likely where the bounce is actually from.  This message could be an indication
that ooo-users@ i.a.o is not a recognized list somewhere.

 - Dennis


These bounce notices have simple text and include the bounced message as an attachment.

I have been receiving these in my Spam folder and I finally noticed.  (Most of my received
bounce messages *are* spam or the result of some spammer misusing my e-mail addresss so I
rarely look at them, especially if any of my messages have been reaching the lists I am subscribed

I have provided the full headers of one of the bounce messages back to me.  This attachment
was my message of Thursday night (-0700) with subject "Implications for security vulnerability
(CVE-2012-0037).  It can be seen successfully posted to the list at 


(I see a discrepancy in the time-stamps also.  The list shows date 2012-03-23T04:46:07Z, My
copy from the list is dated as sent on 2012-03-22T21:46-0700 (agreeing with 2012-03-23T04:46Z),
yet received the bounce notice from Lanny PC (!?) at 2012-03-23-02:28:25-0400, corresponding
to 2012-03-23T06:28:25Z).  This, and the nature of the message, has me suspect that these
peculiar bounce messages are post-list-arrival and from a downstream special-protocol recipient.

 - - - - - - - These are the headers on the bounce message I received - - - - -

Return-path: <>
[ .... ] Final path irrelevant
Received: from ([])
        by (ACM Email Forwarding Service) with SMTP id HJA88133
        for <>; Fri, 23 Mar 2012 02:29:33 -0400
Received: from ([]) by ([])
with SMTP;
	Fri, 23 Mar 2012 06:29:32 GMT
Received: from ([])
          (InterMail vM. 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP
          id <>
          for <>; Fri, 23 Mar 2012 02:29:32 -0400
Received: from Lanny-PC ([])
	by with bizsmtp
	id ouUP1i0034b06CN03uUQtt; Fri, 23 Mar 2012 02:28:25 -0400
X-CT-Class: Clean
X-CT-Score: 0.00
X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020201.4F6C184B.00A8,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=256
X-CT-Spam: 0
X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=/z6nVqgKJubJSJFLDUxhpnTtIgTQeP8W3J+4y8l5h/4=
 c=1 sm=1 a=SJIS0OigG-AA:10 a=jksSu5QgSbTtBvHH52dhDQ==:17 a=mV9VRH-2AAAA:8
 a=knQjgZu5OroMix5nMfYA:9 a=YCs5jFZFAnHFUSHzdFsA:9 a=_4BPYxVLAAAA:8
 a=-hyCGDrDAAAA:8 a=B6ByjeiWjoBosR4FfqUA:9 a=DpDQOH3bnqWrVRIQN1UA:7
 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=93i8w3xbaaYA:10 a=Er2gK3W4G3kA:10
X-CM-Score: 0.00
Authentication-Results:; none
From: "Mail Delivery Subsystem" <>
To: Dennis E. Hamilton <>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Auto-submitted: auto-generated (failure)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: multipart/report;
Message-ID: <CHILKAT-MID-5664642a-6e2d-e0ab-cf8d-c488c2f0a436@Lanny-PC>
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 02:29:32 -0400
X-pstn-neptune: 0/0/0.00/0
X-pstn-levels:     (S:66.88766/99.90000 CV:99.9000 FC:95.5390 LC:95.5390 R:95.9108 P:95.9108
M:97.0282 C:98.6951 )
X-pstn-dkim: 0 skipped:not-enabled
X-pstn-settings: 3 (1.0000:1.0000) s cv gt3 gt2 gt1 
X-pstn-addresses: from <> [271/12]
The original message was received at Thu, 22 Mar 2012 21:46:34 -0700
from []

 - - - - - - - The Bounce Message I received - - - - - - - -

   ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
    (expanded from:

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
mail.local: unknown name: ooo-users
550 User unknown

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