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Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 23:06:41 -0500
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Subject: Re: Integration of my chart features
From: Rob Weir <robweir@apache.org>
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On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 10:38 PM, Pedro Giffuni <pfg@apache.org> wrote:
>
>
> --- Gio 16/2/12, Dennis E. Hamilton <dennis.hamilton@acm.org> ha scritto:
>
>> Data: Gioved=C3=AC 16 febbraio 2012, 21:44
>> If Regina has the right to submit the
>> patches anywhere of her choosing, it seems to me that her
>> submitting them here is automatically covered by her iCLA,
>> no matter what equivalent statement she has made to the TDF
>> (where the equivalent of an iCLA is an e-mail declaration).
>>
>>
>> I agree, it is generally not prudent for us to assume that
>> it is all right to make our own patches from commits made to
>> LO.=C2=A0 So long as the LO commits identify Regina as the
>> committer or as the submitter, and she has explicitly
>> contributed them to us here, as in the note to Armin, that
>> should connect all of the dots.=C2=A0 The ceremony about
>> asserting ALv2 licensing is what someone who has no iCLA
>> would be expected to do.=C2=A0 It seems very redundant in
>> this case.=C2=A0 No harm, just redundant.
>>
>> =C2=A0- Dennis
>>
>
> I agree with Dennis: since Regina has clearly offered
> to contribute her work, further declarations are not
> required. Really; contributing should be easy as that.
>

Read the ICLA.  It does not talking about "offering to contribute".
It talks about "contributing", and that is done via the mailing list,
SVN or Bugzilla or other similar systems that are managed by, or on
behalf of Apache.  So I don't see how this is a contribution in the
sense of the ICLA.

That said, an ICLA is not required for all contributions, but in those
non-ICLA cases I think we should seek a clear statement from the
contributor, along the lines of 'I contribute X to Apache under the
Apache 2.0 license".   This protects us, our users and downstream
consumers of the product.

And I want to make it perfectly clear that Regina has my utmost thanks
and appreciation for the work she has done, both here at Apache, but
also help she's given to OASIS and the ODF TC in her review of
OpenFormula.  I don't want this to come off as criticism of her or her
work.  But I do want to make sure this PMC sets a good precedent for
how we handle this situation going forward.

if there is the slightest doubt on this we should take it to
legal-discuss.  Having the right answer is more important than having
a fast answer.  I may be wrong in the end, but I'm not wrong for being
cautious ;-)

-Rob

> The problem is actually the changes others (Eike)
> made but it looks like that is code that has to
> be readapted before committing here anyways.
>
> Pedro.
>
> ps. Thank you Regina!!
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rob Weir [mailto:robweir@apache.org]
>>
>> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 16:33
>> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Integration of my chart features
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 6:51 PM, Regina Henschel
>> <rb.henschel@t-online.de>
>> wrote:
>> > Hi Armin,
>> >
>> > I have listed the relevant LO commits below. Is it
>> possible to use that
>> > directly? If not, you can at least have look, what they
>> contain.
>> >
>>
>> If this is your code, you can give it to whomever you
>> want.=C2=A0 But we
>> (this project) need to be clear what the license is.
>> When you gave
>> the patch to LO you presumably gave it under
>> LPGL/MPL.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0For AOO we
>> need it under ALv2.
>>
>> The normal way of doing this would be to create the patch
>> files and
>> either send them to the list or attach them to a BZ issue.
>>
>> Another approach, one that would satisfy me, since you've
>> signed the
>> ICLA, is a note to the list from you saying something like
>> "I
>> contribute the following patches to the Apache OpenOffice
>> project
>> under the Apache 2.0 license" and then list the specific
>> commits.
>> You just need to be explicit about the license so we have
>> that for the
>> record.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> -Rob
>>
>>
>> > If necessary I can build the current AOO, apply the
>> patches locally, and
>> > generate fresh patches. But you know, that will last a
>> while.
>> >
>> > Kind regards
>> > Regina
>> >
>> > Armin Le Grand schrieb:
>> >
>> >> Hi Regina,
>> >>
>> >> On 15.02.2012 14:16, Regina Henschel wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi all,
>> >>>
>> >>> in LibreOffice 3.5 some chart features which I
>> have written are
>> >>> integrated. See http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/3.5#=
Calc
>> >>> items Cubic Spline, B-Spline, data point
>> markers, and standard palette.
>> >>>
>> >>> I hope you agree, that they should go into AOO
>> too. When can this happen?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Yes I agree :-)
>> >> This can happen immediately, the feature is
>> finished and checked. Please
>> >> lead me to the patch/diff, I will then check and
>> integrate.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>> >
>> > Adapting spline interpolation to definition in ODF1.2:
>> >
>> > http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=3D6a8f23ec27e9=
fd55411f9536fb3fdfea2b6cd8bd
>> >
>> > and
>> >
>> > http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=3D0a8bfd746590=
d5a650ba170daaa70327d8df3101
>> >
>> > and
>> >
>> > http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=3Db0eefda7585f=
a96a21428af4164aff13fc5e7312
>> >
>> > and
>> >
>> > http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=3Ddac805e3be9c=
8017bbdb083e8e98819ad4b2a885
>> >
>> > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D
>> > Additional standard symbols as defined in ODF1.2:
>> >
>> > http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=3D3e5edf6ca9d3=
bc56549602bda2adc855dd57f658
>> >
>> > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D
>> >
>> > I have used the new feature of using polypolygons for
>> line end markers to
>> > define line ends with hole. But with such a hole, you
>> will notice, that the
>> > overlap of line and marker is to large. Therefore I
>> have changed that too.
>> > Overlapping now depends no longer on the length of the
>> marker but now on the
>> > width.
>> >
>> > But you are the drawing expert and perhaps find better
>> solutions for some
>> > details.
>> >
>> > The line end palette itself is in
>> > http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=3D7661f0943d62=
86b7e7075c5f2e172f23d53ea47d
>> >
>> > and the changed overlapping in
>> > http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=3D33996edb390e=
74f203fec4651eb641e4029c27e7
>> >
>> > With the new markers I suggest to close issues 10547
>> and 14549.
>> >
>> >
>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>> >
>> > And a tiny bugfix for the XHTML export filter:
>> >
>> > http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=3Dc5047ca9fac4=
ea1d16a977608402622d2b3bfdde
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>