Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 42A8E95CB for ; Sun, 26 Feb 2012 08:53:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 28110 invoked by uid 500); 26 Feb 2012 08:53:21 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 27843 invoked by uid 500); 26 Feb 2012 08:53:18 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 27798 invoked by uid 99); 26 Feb 2012 08:53:16 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 26 Feb 2012 08:53:16 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of jogischmidt@googlemail.com designates 209.85.214.47 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.214.47] (HELO mail-bk0-f47.google.com) (209.85.214.47) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 26 Feb 2012 08:53:10 +0000 Received: by bkcjg15 with SMTP id jg15so478158bkc.6 for ; Sun, 26 Feb 2012 00:52:50 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jogischmidt@googlemail.com designates 10.205.132.71 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.205.132.71; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jogischmidt@googlemail.com designates 10.205.132.71 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jogischmidt@googlemail.com; dkim=pass header.i=jogischmidt@googlemail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.205.132.71]) by 10.205.132.71 with SMTP id ht7mr4290251bkc.19.1330246370281 (num_hops = 1); Sun, 26 Feb 2012 00:52:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=dCy8npxAJH2KSbN+Ak3S+VD2fLQoVzFjrV+Q4NFB09k=; b=fYOSMosx0fNURNAdpeBSvg/FV3eMM1fOz+9mjXn0+2BdCiBrvQBY74vWHsELRTLiFT V/BInW2w3EP4NrNDfw+HQeDVJXQjXIkysnNoeVLlQmgw8he7Us8TAYalhKEpIzxMgeRW nby5cOl7rLGSg2jovbu+lwx1BOWLSmyRgUUmE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.205.132.71 with SMTP id ht7mr3486911bkc.19.1330246370158; Sun, 26 Feb 2012 00:52:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.129.81 with HTTP; Sun, 26 Feb 2012 00:52:50 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4F48C56F.4020008@gmx.de> References: <4F47651C.7070902@googlemail.com> <-2259114031281902786@unknownmsgid> <4F48C56F.4020008@gmx.de> Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 09:52:50 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [RELEASE]: preparation for our first release From: =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=BCrgen_Schmidt?= To: "ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0ce0b8585b687004b9da1ea2 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --000e0ce0b8585b687004b9da1ea2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Am Samstag, 25. Februar 2012 schrieb O.Felka : > Am 25.02.2012 01:06, schrieb Rob Weir: > >> On Feb 24, 2012, at 11:05 AM, Ross Gardler >> wrote: >> >> Without commenting on the dates, schedules and technical issues I >>> would urge you to make sure you allow significant time for IP review >>> from mentors and the IPMC. I imagine this release will get a great >>> deal of attention and, almost without a doubt, someone will come up >>> with something that needs to be addressed. >>> >>> >> Mentors and IPMC members have had 8 months to offer IP related >> comments. They are welcome at any time. But in my experience declaring >> a Release Candidate is especially effective at concentrating their >> attention on that task. >> >> We should plan on having multiple RC iterations. There are enough >> unwritten rules related to release requirements that we'll almost >> certainly need several iterations. But the most effective way to >> uncover these unwritten rules is by proposing a RC for a release vote. >> > > A release by votes? Wouldn't it be better to have some > concrete release criteria? > Having some quality goals that must be reached? it is not contradictory and have I pointed out that we don't release if there are valid concerns. We will release when we don't have critical show stopper issues. And discussion on show stopper issues should take place on ooo-dev when issues marked as critical. I don't think we have to define the rules for show stopper issues again and can use the existing ones (e.g. crashes, data loss, ...) I hope people will take it serious and don't vote against a release without valid concerns. Juergen > Groetjes, > Olaf > --000e0ce0b8585b687004b9da1ea2--