Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A901B9B08 for ; Fri, 17 Feb 2012 14:00:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 34751 invoked by uid 500); 17 Feb 2012 14:00:59 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 34679 invoked by uid 500); 17 Feb 2012 14:00:59 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 34669 invoked by uid 99); 17 Feb 2012 14:00:59 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 17 Feb 2012 14:00:59 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [74.208.4.194] (HELO mout.perfora.net) (74.208.4.194) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 17 Feb 2012 14:00:53 +0000 Received: from [192.168.5.40] ([64.134.40.111]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus4) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MYwe3-1S2Sw11G55-00VL36; Fri, 17 Feb 2012 09:00:31 -0500 Message-ID: <4F3E5D7C.1060304@shanecurcuru.org> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 09:00:28 -0500 From: Shane Curcuru User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:10.0.1) Gecko/20120208 Thunderbird/10.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Reminder: Not all list posts are from list subscribers References: <20120216184149.GA8023@localhost> <20120217014152.GA19665@localhost> In-Reply-To: <20120217014152.GA19665@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:w0vDG76ORKCwbQw6XFhuwQw8XpoAweCGntRMUkJBSs6 BgntLGgOiaJkUoGDfNF++993iQHiV5zBBGTwh3ZWNSsYjrepFv ihH+kUjzbNPF1jnKkeEc5ft3lmxdIPxkakMT6ZnfXp1Rbtfxny Ej1p489T/7BXzilNsL1vfcLE0kwVY2Kyj9w0OzkVxyAIhYGyIy VoqhMu801CkxdPJujp2Gn66sghGiYRp53Gb5RtlPCi7GucjJJA sKZscsh5cJNXvEfSRa6w462ITlfzMwjvxSoJZBub4zotmK9XDV pv6Bl90yWo58VImfnXyIzh/exEjpy8cq9gAsy+Hhw9PIa6XId6 oBP9WIc2MHxlQEL2C8SSgXz5oOQXq+Dhcd0cW0u7j On 2012-02-16 8:41 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: > On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 02:06:56PM -0500, Rob Weir wrote: >> You is welcome to scrutinize your mail headers with a hex editor if >> that is your thing. > > That's why I said a "decent MUA"... In mutt, for example, all you have > to do is add to your ~/.muttrc two lines: Where MUA = Mail User Agent, i.e. the actual program that you use to read your emails - like Thunderbird, Outlook, GMail (really, the browser you use to open gmail.com), etc. > unignore "Delivered-To: moderator for" > color header brightred color233 '^delivered-to: moderator for' > > and you see the header in a color impossible to miss its moderated: > http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/mutt-moderated.png > > It's not rocket science to use a "decent MUA". > > Regards Indeed - for folks who use Thunderbird (like I do), I posted instructions on how to setup mail filters based on headers. http://markmail.org/message/katmtejfsx5xomvo Given the broad reach (both users and developers) and new community around AOO, it would be awesome to post a page on the AOO site with tips on how to manage mail subscriptions at Apache. Some projects have tips like this, but they're normally developer-focused, and the average user probably has no clue what a mua is. Huh. The Jakarta mailing list guidelines page is a fairly good overview that's not too technical about list etiquette that might be worth copying parts of: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail.html I don't remember if we have a specific page that details how our ezmlm sets headers by default (remember, each project may configure various lists slightly differently), but I wish I had time to crib a list of some of the important headers, like the discussion here about "moderator for" (knowing if a post comes from a subscriber will be important in AOO!). - Shane