Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3FF5C90E3 for ; Fri, 3 Feb 2012 23:01:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 47500 invoked by uid 500); 3 Feb 2012 23:01:44 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 47402 invoked by uid 500); 3 Feb 2012 23:01:43 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 47394 invoked by uid 99); 3 Feb 2012 23:01:43 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 03 Feb 2012 23:01:43 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [148.87.113.117] (HELO rcsinet15.oracle.com) (148.87.113.117) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 03 Feb 2012 23:01:33 +0000 Received: from acsinet22.oracle.com (acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238]) by rcsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.4/Switch-3.4.4) with ESMTP id q13N1Bsb025019 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Fri, 3 Feb 2012 23:01:12 GMT Received: from acsmt356.oracle.com (acsmt356.oracle.com [141.146.40.156]) by acsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q13N1Agc015133 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 3 Feb 2012 23:01:11 GMT Received: from abhmt106.oracle.com (abhmt106.oracle.com [141.146.116.58]) by acsmt356.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q13N1A6t003462 for ; Fri, 3 Feb 2012 17:01:11 -0600 Received: from [130.35.71.178] (/130.35.71.178) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Fri, 03 Feb 2012 15:01:10 -0800 Message-ID: <4F2C6721.1040601@oracle.com> Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2012 15:00:49 -0800 From: Andrew Rist User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111222 Thunderbird/9.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Contributed code (was Re: Fake OpenOffice site?) References: <4F29E234.9040707@shanecurcuru.org> <4F2A86B0.8000506@shanecurcuru.org> <4F2C538B.1090309@oracle.com> <4F2C5E76.5090604@cfl.rr.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090207.4F2C6738.005A,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 On 2/3/2012 2:38 PM, Louis Su�rez-Potts wrote: > Andrew, > > Is Oracle also granting to Apache license to the training material for > OOo and Oracle Open Office? (I am not sure but believe that Oracle was > only working on branded Oracle OO stuff, but it's very likely > commutative.) > > -louis That stuff was not part of OOo project and has not been included. I understand your interest, but that is a different topic than the below discussion. A. On 3 February 2012 17:23, TJ Frazier wrote: >> On 2/3/2012 16:37, Andrew Rist wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 2/2/2012 4:50 AM, Shane Curcuru wrote: >>>> On 2012-02-01 9:01 PM, Rob Weir wrote: >>>>> 1) Oracle contributed the OpenOffice.org source code and trademarks >>>>> to Apache >>>> >>>> Really? I thought Oracle granted a license of most of the >>>> OpenOffice.org source code to Apache, not all of it. If they had >>>> granted a license of all the source code, we'd probably be about a >>>> month further along in the schedule, maybe? But we've done amazing >>>> work filling in the pieces and making the current Apache OpenOffice >>>> releases work while ensuring we only use permissively licensed code. >>> Hey Shane - probably just an issue with wording, but just want to add >>> this to the discussion... >>> Oracle granted a license to the stuff that Oracle had clear copyright >>> ownership on. I don't think there is anything owned by Oracle that was >>> not donated - especially nothing that is pushing the schedule back at >>> this point. >>> There are a lot of non-Sun/Oracle code used by the project (some of it >>> copyleft) - obviously this could not be 'donated' by Oracle. >>> It is the remediation of this code that has been the source of the last >>> few months of work - mostly copyleft dependencies and 'extensions' (I'm >>> thinking dictionaries and the like here) >>> >>> A. >>> >> Andrew, >> >> The only code I know of that got lost is the crash-dump analysis code >> (J�rgen is the expert on it). It is a bee in my bonnet, because I consider >> it indispensable for certain kinds of problems. It was Sun-proprietary code, >> run in Hamburg. >> >> IMHO, its reincarnation would be worth considerable effort. >> >> -- >> /tj/ >> -- Andrew Rist | Interoperability Architect OracleCorporate Architecture Group Redwood Shores, CA | 650.506.9847