Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A010C9CCF for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 16:26:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 52526 invoked by uid 500); 21 Feb 2012 16:26:00 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 52484 invoked by uid 500); 21 Feb 2012 16:26:00 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 52476 invoked by uid 99); 21 Feb 2012 16:26:00 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 16:26:00 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of dave2wave@comcast.net designates 76.96.27.227 as permitted sender) Received: from [76.96.27.227] (HELO qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net) (76.96.27.227) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 16:25:52 +0000 Received: from omta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.36]) by qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id cgRU1i0050mlR8UACgRWdJ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 16:25:30 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.74] ([67.180.51.144]) by omta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id cgRV1i01D36gVt78XgRVdG; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 16:25:30 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Start compleetly new with http://de.openoffice.org From: Dave Fisher In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 08:25:29 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <06C67396-A406-4AA4-979D-B46423B4B2CD@comcast.net> References: <4F43A5AB.50709@gmx.ch> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Feb 21, 2012, at 8:00 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 9:09 AM, Raphael Bircher = wrote: >> Hi at all >>=20 >> the Germanophone page http://de.openoffice.org looks ugly and is = compleetly >> outdate. There is also a load of material who does not fit for Apache >> Server. The site is heighly visited, and provide not a good = impression right >=20 > I can confirm that this is one of the most-popular pages. Google > reports that based on search traffic, the 20 most popular pages at > openoffice.org are: >=20 > http://www.openoffice.org/ > http://www.openoffice.org/download/ > http://www.openoffice.org/de/ > http://www.openoffice.org/fr/ > http://www.openoffice.org/fr/about-downloads.html > http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html > http://www.openoffice.org/es/ > http://www.openoffice.org/it/ > http://www.openoffice.org/ja/ > http://www.openoffice.org/it/download/ > http://www.openoffice.org/de/downloads/ Note that the downloads are also in the NL site. > http://www.openoffice.org/pl/ > http://www.openoffice.org/porting/mac/ > http://www.openoffice.org/pl/product.download.html > http://www.openoffice.org/product/writer.html > http://www.openoffice.org/product/calc.html > http://www.openoffice.org/distribution/p2p/ > http://www.openoffice.org/ru/ > http://www.openoffice.org/sv/ > http://www.openoffice.org/es/programa/ >=20 > So the German site is the most popular of the NL sites. >=20 >> now. I see more work if we rework this page as if we start from zero. = I >> beleve that less is more, and so I like to start with a simple page = with >> information about: >>=20 >> - The Apache OpenOffice (incubator) project >> - The upcomming Apache OpenOffice >> - and how to help. >>=20 >> What do you think about... better options? >>=20 >=20 > Would it help to translate the main content from the English homepage? > That way we can try to keep them in sync going forward. A good idea. I plan to work on improving the main page in the following = ways: (1) Make news into an mdtext and SSI include. (2) Make the button content into mdtext with narrower buttons. Do similar for downloads. (3) Make righthand links into rightnav.mdtext (4) Make the button content into mdtext with narrower buttons. For NL, I am ready to handle NL versions of the topnav. This will mean that each NL site will have the following mdtext index.mdtext news.mdtext topnav.mdtext download/index.mdtext download/rightnav.mdtext > For example, have the same news stories that we have on the right of > the English home page. Exactly. Working on a DE versions of topnav.mdtext, news, download's rightnav = will help decide which pages need to be translated vs. referring to the = English version. I'm happy to assist, but rather busy. If someone wants to raise their = hand then I'll help them understand the latest transitions which have = made navigation and header changes much less painful and possible with = the CMS. Regards, Dave >=20 > -Rob >=20 >> Greetings Raphael >> -- >> My private Homepage: http://www.raphaelbircher.ch/