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From J├╝rgen Schmidt <>
Subject Re: Proposal for use of funds collected by SPI
Date Mon, 13 Feb 2012 09:22:48 GMT
On 2/13/12 9:21 AM, Ross Gardler wrote:
> There is a tentative plan for an Apache event in Germany this year. Nothing
> is confirmed yet. I'll get a status update.

I also like the idea to combine such a developer face 2 face meeting 
with a normal Apache Con. And well having it in Germany would be nice 
for us.

But more important for me is the overall idea of a AOO community face 2 
face meeting.


> Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity.
> On Feb 13, 2012 2:11 AM, "Pedro Giffuni"<>  wrote:
>> On 02/12/12 10:55, Wolf Halton wrote:
>>> I am excited about getting the developers together!
>>> Where are the largest number of developers located? How hard would it
>>> be to find a place where the largest number with the least money for
>>> travel could get there with the least hassle?
>>> Wolf
>> It depends on who's cost you want to optimize: I suspect the
>> two biggest groups of developers are in Germany and China.
>> I don't think we should spend donated money in corporate hats
>> but it's important that they can go too, so perhaps somewhere
>> in Europe.
>> I was thinking in ApacheCon because there are some interesting
>> codebases that we use (Lucene, Tomcat, Apache commons) and
>> it would be good to have some contact with those communites.
>> Any hint where the next ApacheCon Europe will be?
>> Pedro.
>>   On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 5:15 AM, Ross Gardler
>>> <>   wrote:
>>>>    From my point of view I think it would be very valuable to use this
>>>> money to get the developers together for a hackathon type event.
>>>> This project is currently populated by a large number of individuals
>>>> from a single company and a large number of individuals who probably
>>>> feel they are insignificant. On top of that there are people from the
>>>> old structure who likely feel disenfranchised. It would be great to
>>>> have an event that brought all these people together.
>>>> The issue is organising such an event. It's not trivial, there needs
>>>> to be sufficient momentum in the community to make it happen. I, as a
>>>> member of ComDev and ConCom, and as a mentor of this project, will
>>>> help. I have extensive experience of putting events on, of all sizes,
>>>> here in the UK. I can also assist those wishing to host in their own
>>>> back-yards. But we need commitment from a few PPMC members to be sure
>>>> it will work (and to get the backing of ConCom).
>>>> I would suggest that the proposal to take to the board and committees
>>>> should say that the focus of all activities from this money will be to
>>>> get developers together. It is hoped that an AOO meetup will be
>>>> organised through (ConCom) with travel assistance available for those
>>>> who need it (via TAC). It is not necessary, in my opinion, to commit
>>>> to doing an event, but I am happy for you to say you have my
>>>> commitment to support it - if we can add a few other PPMC members
>>>> names that would be great.
>>>> If the PPMC has the energy and wants to turn this into a user focussed
>>>> event with a developer event co-located then this would also be good
>>>> *but*, be aware that user focussed events are *much* more difficult to
>>>> organise. I am *not* volunteering to help with this part of things. I
>>>> will (with my ConCom hat) support such an event, but count me out of
>>>> the organising team.
>>>> Ross
>>>> --
>>>> Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
>>>> Programme Leader (Open Development)
>>>> OpenDirective

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