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From "Gavin McDonald" <ga...@16degrees.com.au>
Subject RE: Proposal for use of funds collected by SPI
Date Fri, 10 Feb 2012 22:20:12 GMT
I'm happy to answer any Travel Assistance (TAC) related questions.

At this stage, I don’t see any reason why as a one off funds cannot
be added to the TAC budget and held in reserve for ASF sponsored
OOo related events.

HTH

Gav...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wolf Halton [mailto:wolf.halton@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, 11 February 2012 7:42 AM
> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Proposal for use of funds collected by SPI
> 
> On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Rob Weir <robweir@apache.org> wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 3:29 PM, Wolf Halton <wolf.halton@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> Summary: SPI has been collecting moneys for the OpenOffice.org
> >> project for quite a while.  They wanted to help the project and their
> >> help is appreciated.  Now that we are part of the ASF family, we have
> >> some important choices to make.
> >>
> >> First and foremost, we must request SPI to stop their collections
> >> efforts.  AOO cannot receive the money directly as ASF does that.
> >> Second, we need to find out how much they have collected so far.
> >> Third, we need to decide how we would like to use the money they have
> >> collected.
> >>          In general, it would make sense to use the funds for holding
> >> or supporting events, with guidance from the ASF Conference Committee
> >>
> >>              travel assistance with guidance from the aptly named
> >> Travel Assistance Committee
> >>
> >>        and possibly marketing with help from the Trademarks Committee
> >> and Marketing Committee
> >>
> >>        We absolutely cannot pay people to develop our software with
> >> the money, per ASF rules.
> >> I volunteered to move this forward and I would like your feedback,
> >> maybe a general poll of what you, the community, would like to do
> >> with the money.
> >>
> 
> Thanks for the link, Rob.  I must have been channeling the page with my list
> above, as it is essentially the list on the original page.
> :-)
> 
> >
> > When OpenOffice.org was collecting the funds, it told contributors
> > that the funds would be used for certain purposes. You can see the
> > language that was used here:
> >
> > http://web.archive.org/web/20100105132519/http://contributing.openoffi
> > ce.org/donate.html
> >
> > I think we have latitude to use the funds for any purpose that is
> > listed there, *and* which is also something Apache is able to spend
> > money on, per charter and per policy.
> >
> > As you mentioned, we cannot use the funds to pay for developers.  But
> > the other uses listed there, like travel assistance for conferences,
> > etc., makes sense to me.
> >
> > Hopefully, if there is no objection to that general outline, we can go
> > ahead and transfer the funds.  I think the goal should be to transfer
> > the lump sum balance to Apache, and them disburse individual payments
> > from that fund rather than to make individual requests to SPI.  We
> > should look to get the lump sum, and them use ASF mechanisms for
> > approving the detailed disbursement plan, and that might occur over a
> > longer period of time.
> >
> > Also, when you contact SPI, be sure to thank them for their past
> > efforts in helping OpenOffice.org collect donations in the US.  They
> > did a fine job and we are grateful for that work.  But the reason for
> > using SPI was to enable easier collection of donations from US
> > residents.  Now that we're at Apache, a US-based non-profit
> > corporation, this help is no longer needed.
> >
> > -Rob
> >
> >> Once I have some idea of your wishes, I will connect the dots to
> >> close this issue.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Wolf Halton
> >>
> >> --
> >> This Apt Has Super Cow Powers - http://sourcefreedom.com Advancing
> >> Libraries Together - http://LYRASIS.org
> 
> SPI has been very helpful - working in the background, as have so many
> other organizations and entities.
> I am planning to thank them for all their efforts on our behalf.
> 
> --
> This Apt Has Super Cow Powers - http://sourcefreedom.com Advancing
> Libraries Together - http://LYRASIS.org


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