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From "Gavin McDonald" <ga...@16degrees.com.au>
Subject RE: Sourceforge and extensions download site
Date Wed, 01 Feb 2012 21:18:00 GMT


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pedro Giffuni [mailto:pfg@apache.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, 1 February 2012 11:59 PM
> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Cc: Roberto Galoppini
> Subject: Re: Sourceforge and extensions download site
> 
> Hello;
> 
> I was expecting someone more qualified to respond but sadly this is not
> something we have much control of since this hasn't really been migrated
to
> Apache.
> 
> It looks like Dave Fischer with help from Thorsten Bosbach have put up a
very
> good summary here:
> 
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Extensions%20and
> %20templates
> 
> Hope that helps,
> 
> Pedro.
> 
> (Perhaps Dave or Gavin could get Roberto in touch with with the OSUSOL
> guys?)

I have login to the servers needed. Still waiting to be told what I need to
be doing
with it.

Gav...

> 
> --- Mer 1/2/12, Ross Gardler ha scritto:
> 
> > Da: Ross Gardler <rgardler@opendirective.com>
> > Oggetto: Re: Sourceforge and extensions download site
> > A: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > Data: Mercoledì 1 febbraio 2012, 04:13 Roberto,
> >
> > I'm sorry nobody had responded as yet. I've nagged the PPMC to get
> > itself together over this (on the private list). This is a more gentle
> > nag on the public list, just so you know you are not being ignored.
> >
> > Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity.
> > On Jan 27, 2012 8:13 PM, "Roberto Galoppini" <rgaloppini@geek.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 6:50 PM, Kay Schenk <kay.schenk@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 1:27 AM, Ross Gardler
> > <
> > > rgardler@opendirective.com>wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> As some of you will know the board meeting got
> > pushed back 6 days. It
> > > >> was, however, held last night and I was able
> > to attend. Consequently I
> > > >> am pleased to confirm that we now have a
> > go-ahead with respect to the
> > > >> Sourceforge offer to host the extensions site.
> > However, there is one
> > > >> important restriction on what we can do, so
> > I'll cover that first.
> > > >>
> > > >> There cannot be any advertising on a domain
> > name owned by the ASF,
> > > >> this includes openoffice.org.
> > > >>
> > > >> The board felt the most appropriate action
> > would be to have users
> > > >> directed to *.openoffice,org or *.apache.org
> > where they will be
> > > >> greeted by a page listing appropriate
> > extensions sites with a
> > > >> disclaimer. At a later date this would become
> > the meta-data server. I
> > > >> figured this would not be a problem as it is
> > one of the options we
> > > >> discussed.
> > > >>
> > > >> We did discuss whether this would break
> > behaviour for older OOo
> > > >> releases. If this is the case then it would be
> > acceptable to provide a
> > > >> redirect for appropriate URLs. This may need
> > to be removed for at
> > > >> graduation time, we didn't go into details
> > about this as I felt it
> > > >> would be acceptable to deprecate the old
> > behaviour whilst in
> > > >> incubation. Let me know if this is an
> > incorrect assumption.
> > > >>
> > > >> I had some specific questions for the board, I
> > copy them below but
> > > >> please not these are my notes and not from the
> > minutes. They have not
> > > >> been approved yet, I'll let you know if I
> > misunderstood anything.
> > > >>
> > > >> Can the PPMC accept SF's offer?
> > > >> Yes
> > > >>
> > > >> MOU necessary? What should it cover?
> > > >> PPMC to decide if necessary (with mentor
> > guidance).
> > > >> Since the long term plan is to move to a PPMC owned meta-server
> > > >> it might make most
> > sense to just let SF own
> > > >> this extensions site and not be distracted by
> > what they are doing (we
> > > >> have trademarks policy to ensure they don't
> > misbehave).
> > > >>
> > > >> Assuming trademarks are respected are we OK?
> > > >> Yes (as long as no advertising on apache owned
> > domain)
> > > >>
> > > >> Will this address IP issues since non-ASF code
> > will be offsite
> > > >> Probably (I believe this to be a yes, but
> > allowing for edge cases)
> > > >>
> > > >> Advertising on the extensions download site?
> > > >> OK as long as not an apache domain (incl.
> > openoffice.org)
> > > >>
> > > >> Redirection preferred?
> > > >> Yes (see no advertising requirement). Would be
> > better to go via an
> > > >> informational page on an openoffice.org or
> > apache.org.
> > > >>
> > > >> So there you go. It's now over to the PPMC to
> > get it moving. I'll
> > > >> forward this mail to the infra team so that
> > they can be ready to hand
> > > >> over the keys to the current extensions site
> > at an appropriate time.
> > > >> Who is going to drive this?
> > > >>
> > > >> Ross
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
> > > >> Programme Leader (Open Development) OpenDirective
> > > >> http://opendirective.com
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ross--
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for this update. Yes, Apache OpenOffice
> > PPMC will need to spend
> > > some
> > > > time mulling this over. But -- good news!
> > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > ------------------
> > > > MzK
> > > >
> > > > "Follow your bliss."
> > > >         --
> > attributed to Joseph Campbell
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > we look forward to start working on it as soon as
> > possible, and we are
> > > open to do what is necessary to make it (MoU, define
> > how to handle ads
> > > out of Apache domains, IP issues, etc).
> > >
> > > Since we committed to deploy the Extension website in a
> > short time, I
> > > wonder if in the meantime we might get a copy of the
> > Drupal
> > > application and of the database of extensions to do our
> > home work,
> > > eventually providing you with all necessary
> > warranties.
> > >
> > > Roberto
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