Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B794AB7AF for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 17:33:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 96610 invoked by uid 500); 8 Jan 2012 17:33:08 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 96461 invoked by uid 500); 8 Jan 2012 17:33:08 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 96450 invoked by uid 99); 8 Jan 2012 17:33:07 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 08 Jan 2012 17:33:07 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of gcaiod-ooo-dev@m.gmane.org designates 80.91.229.12 as permitted sender) Received: from [80.91.229.12] (HELO lo.gmane.org) (80.91.229.12) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 08 Jan 2012 17:32:58 +0000 Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Rjwbm-00040Q-1A for ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2012 18:32:38 +0100 Received: from 31-18-68-172-dynip.superkabel.de ([31.18.68.172]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 08 Jan 2012 18:32:38 +0100 Received: from mst by 31-18-68-172-dynip.superkabel.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 08 Jan 2012 18:32:38 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org From: Michael Stahl Subject: Re: /usr/bin/openoffice.org Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2012 18:32:24 +0100 Lines: 39 Message-ID: References: <4F06CD69.5000408@a-w-f.de> <4F06D2F8.5090906@a-w-f.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 31-18-68-172-dynip.superkabel.de User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110930 Thunderbird/7.0.1 In-Reply-To: <4F06D2F8.5090906@a-w-f.de> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On 06/01/12 11:54, Andre Fischer wrote: > Ah, found another one: > > Synaptic on Ubuntu 11.10 has a package "openoffice.org" which installs > LibreOffice. It is not installed by default (the "libreoffice" package > is) and also provides the 'explanation' > > > This is a transitional package, replacing the OpenOffice.org packaging > with the LibreOffice packaging. > > It can be safely removed after an upgrade. > > > but still, is this OK? hi Andre, this is a standard procedure that happens regularly on deb-based distributions: upstream communities do weird things such as re-brand, fork, become inactive and resume at a different place with a different name, etc.; examples that come to mind include GAIM re-branded to Pidgin, Debian's Mozilla stuff re-branded IceAnimals, or the git/gnuit conflict. the approach is that an empty package with the old name which has a dependency on the real package with the new name is included in the next release, to ensure a smooth upgrade experience for users (because otherwise an outdated and unsupported version of the old package would remain, which is bad from a security point of view). this "transitional" package is then usually dropped one release later (though i don't know what happens exactly on Ubuntu, which supports upgrades between LTS releases). in this case i guess it's at the discretion of the distributions which of the 2 successors of the deceased OpenOffice.org they transition to (and given the lack of a release from Apache OpenOffice it shouldn't surprise anybody that currently LibreOffice is the more popular transition target). regards, michael