Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7523990DD for ; Sat, 28 Jan 2012 17:37:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 55622 invoked by uid 500); 28 Jan 2012 17:37:45 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 55539 invoked by uid 500); 28 Jan 2012 17:37:44 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 55531 invoked by uid 99); 28 Jan 2012 17:37:44 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 28 Jan 2012 17:37:44 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of kay.schenk@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.47 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.215.47] (HELO mail-lpp01m010-f47.google.com) (209.85.215.47) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 28 Jan 2012 17:37:37 +0000 Received: by lahc1 with SMTP id c1so1465521lah.6 for ; Sat, 28 Jan 2012 09:37:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=tdUH707I/yobt8/KNCNybkQRLKL2D+m3tDhRExrFiWE=; b=o//Es/J5IAzVVTIf44QxPaoJtwbt6xJ1JT+cPCxr2/3HKtKLHWKJDnG1kITYR2R7vr +1L0NuFM5LrcfkF/khQX6638ZQIBCoAbhXfI+0lt+RrHgc5wXKrefI3tiCL9pgJ0bnjU plx0CxaPJUbUmIA9LXi/S3+OXa4qngzJNETMk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.111.200 with SMTP id ik8mr5816404lab.43.1327772237198; Sat, 28 Jan 2012 09:37:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.112.1.225 with HTTP; Sat, 28 Jan 2012 09:37:17 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <4F203282.6060003@googlemail.com> <4F2155D1.8080404@googlemail.com> Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 09:37:17 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [CODE]: "Registration..." menu entry in the Help menu From: Kay Schenk To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d040891318a75dd04b79a106e X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --f46d040891318a75dd04b79a106e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 8:02 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > 2012/1/26 J=FCrgen Schmidt : > > On 1/26/12 2:15 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > >> > >> 2012/1/25 J=FCrgen Schmidt: > >>> > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> I have seen the "Registration..." menu entry in the "Help" menu. I te= nd > >>> to > >>> remove this entry completely or at least remove it by default and mak= e > it > >>> configurable for potential later use. > >>> > >>> At the moment it opens a Url [1] in the browser that is not working a= t > >>> all. > >>> > >>> Any opinions or comments on this? > >>> > >> > >> Clearly the current action of the Registration menu item --- a form > >> for user to fill out information and send to Oracle -- no longer is > >> useful for us. > >> > >> But is there anything like a registration that does make sense for us? > > > > I am not sure and I personally don't like it. > > > > But that was the reason why I would prefer to simply remove the menu > entry > > and don't remove the feature completely. It can be done via a simple > config > > item ;-) > > > > > >> > >> Or in general, what do want the "first launch" experience to be for > >> user, after they install? > > > > It think this is something different or do you mean the already disable= d > > first start registration wizard? > > > > The closest to registration that we might have is to encourage the > user to sign up for the ooo-announce list. But this is just one of > several things we want to tell the user. Maybe after install we > automatically launch a web page, or even load an ODF document, with > content like: > > > -- Welcome message from the project > -- Highlights of the release, link to detailed release notes > -- Where to for documentation > -- Where to go for support > -- Extensions and templates informations > -- Invitation / Instructions on joining ooo-announce mailing list > -- Links to official social media, our blog. Google+, Twitter, Facebook, > etc. > > If we do this in ODF format, as a document, then we can also use it as > a quick demonstration of the capabilities of the editor, showing a > really good looking, well formatted document, etc. A good first > experience for the user. > +1 I like this proposal a LOT! We tell them something interesting and we don't have to maintain any additional DBs. Much less hassle in the long run! :) So simple, and yet so good! > > So not really registration -- we're not collecting names and addresses > for marketing purposes. But I think getting users connected via > ooo-announce and social media is a key part of having an effective > relationship with the users going forward. Such opt-in relationships > are very powerful, especially with the social media, since they are > two-way communications. > > > I really like for example the StartCenter from Symphony or also from th= e > > RedFlag Office. I think we should work on a better user experience on t= he > > start center. Help users to get started and solve their typical problem= s. > > For example easier access to the most often used templates, to the rece= nt > > documents, finding help or documentation, ... > > > > > >> > >>> If not I will remove it as proposed. > > > > > > I will remove it for the next snapshot build via the config item. A > change > > that can be easy reverted. > > > > Juergen > > > >>> > >>> Juergen > >>> > >>> > >>> [1] survey.services.openoffice.org/user/index.php > > > > > --=20 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------------- MzK "Follow your bliss." -- attributed to Joseph Campbell --f46d040891318a75dd04b79a106e--