Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 358499A23 for ; Sat, 28 Jan 2012 22:34:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 61754 invoked by uid 500); 28 Jan 2012 22:34:27 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 61697 invoked by uid 500); 28 Jan 2012 22:34:26 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 61688 invoked by uid 99); 28 Jan 2012 22:34:26 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 28 Jan 2012 22:34:26 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of tjfrazier@cfl.rr.com designates 75.180.132.120 as permitted sender) Received: from [75.180.132.120] (HELO cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com) (75.180.132.120) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 28 Jan 2012 22:34:17 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=ffgvOjsF c=1 sm=0 a=4Jz+jJ0YjisZbq4FujTDrw==:17 a=mU5CzuQmXxAA:10 a=9Fc-o7ge80oA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=mV9VRH-2AAAA:8 a=CcxotcD22i5mYMi8GHkA:9 a=qduzhycDtzYAeMlKjkwA:7 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=88iI8knYSJUA:10 a=4Jz+jJ0YjisZbq4FujTDrw==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 68.205.107.180 Received: from [68.205.107.180] ([68.205.107.180:49713] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 01/7F-25990-3D7742F4; Sat, 28 Jan 2012 22:33:56 +0000 Message-ID: <4F2477CE.2050907@cfl.rr.com> Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 17:33:50 -0500 From: TJ Frazier User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111222 Thunderbird/9.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [CODE]: "Registration..." menu entry in the Help menu References: <4F203282.6060003@googlemail.com> <4F2155D1.8080404@googlemail.com> <00b301ccddf2$4aa3ba90$dfeb2fb0$@acm.org> In-Reply-To: <00b301ccddf2$4aa3ba90$dfeb2fb0$@acm.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Hi, all! Comments in-line. On 1/28/2012 14:23, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > If the welcome document is stored locally in the installation > locally, having it as an ODT might work. > > It does mean that translations will be required. > > Opening of a web page has the advantage of being able to adapt to > browser language settings on a server and also being able to update > the document over time. The URL could also be release- specific > (which would allow further customization). > > I think it is also important to consider the threat surface of both > approaches, especially if the document will be opened or the URL > fetched under the privileges of the install process. > > - Dennis > > PS: I suppose this is also an area that might be subject to > distribution-specific customization, including in-enterprise > distributions. > @Dennis: all good points to keep in mind, but please also keep in mind that the same work has to be done for a welcome in a doc or on a web page (customize, translate, &c.). We have lots of folks who can do that in Writer ... > -----Original Message----- From: Kay Schenk > [mailto:kay.schenk@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 09:37 > To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [CODE]: > "Registration..." menu entry in the Help menu > > On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 8:02 AM, Rob Weir > wrote: [ ... ] >> The closest to registration that we might have is to encourage the >> user to sign up for the ooo-announce list. But this is just one >> of several things we want to tell the user. Maybe after install >> we automatically launch a web page, or even load an ODF document, >> with content like: >> >> >> -- Welcome message from the project -- Highlights of the release, >> link to detailed release notes -- Where to for documentation -- >> Where to go for support -- Extensions and templates informations -- >> Invitation / Instructions on joining ooo-announce mailing list -- >> Links to official social media, our blog. Google+, Twitter, >> Facebook, etc. >> >> If we do this in ODF format, as a document, then we can also use it >> as a quick demonstration of the capabilities of the editor, showing >> a really good looking, well formatted document, etc. A good first >> experience for the user. >> > > +1 > > I like this proposal a LOT! We tell them something interesting and > we don't have to maintain any additional DBs. Much less hassle in the > long run! :) So simple, and yet so good! > > +1 also. A three-bang good idea!!! Some more thoughts: * Store the doc as writable, so the user can make changes. Empowerment. * Turn on the Record Changes feature (mention this in the doc), and solicit advice from the users as to what is helpful, what is not, and what would be helpful. /tj/ > [ ... ] > > >