Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DD760B3E5 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2012 23:15:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 88964 invoked by uid 500); 4 Jan 2012 23:15:49 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 88860 invoked by uid 500); 4 Jan 2012 23:15:49 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 88852 invoked by uid 99); 4 Jan 2012 23:15:49 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 23:15:49 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of dennis.hamilton@acm.org designates 75.98.160.131 as permitted sender) Received: from [75.98.160.131] (HELO a2s15.a2hosting.com) (75.98.160.131) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 23:15:40 +0000 Received: from 63-226-210-225.tukw.qwest.net ([63.226.210.225] helo=Astraendo) by a2s15.a2hosting.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ria3D-0005P1-F8 for ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 18:15:19 -0500 Reply-To: From: "Dennis E. Hamilton" To: Subject: Site Staging Toward AOO 3.4 (was RE: [BUG] AOO cannot be installed) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 15:15:22 -0800 Organization: NuovoDoc Message-ID: <017501cccb36$bc875500$3595ff00$@acm.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 thread-index: AczLNrJp3f9Hqy2HRH+niPaAHfDdPg== Content-Language: en-us X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - a2s15.a2hosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - incubator.apache.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - acm.org X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org +1 I am not disagreeing with Drew. I am agreeing that it is important to = shed critical path wherever possible. Because there are different contributors involved, the critical path = that Drew sees is not impacted by folks working on getting the site = rebranded and managing whatever the recognizable critical paths are in = prepping the site before the 3.4 release. -----Original Message----- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robweir@apache.org]=20 Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 14:27 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [BUG] AOO cannot be installed [ ... ] The number of people who visit the website right now =3D=3D small The number of people who will visit the website when we have a 3.4 release =3D=3D very large The number of users who will even notice work-in-progress with the rebranding before 3.4 releases =3D=3D a fraction of small The number of users who will be harmed by work work-in-progress with the rebranding before 3.4 releases =3D=3D zero The effort to enable staging of rebranding so it all shows up on the website for the first time coordinated with the 3.4 release =3D=3D more than zero The effort to include mention of the rebranding along with other communications about the 3.4 release when it happens =3D=3D almost zero Volunteering to help with rebranding communications when the time comes and to help with rebranding on the web site now =3D=3D Rob Volunteering to set up staging for the rebranding so it can be flipped on with a switch later =3D=3D ? Remember, when we get close to the 3.4 release, we're all going to be very busy with other things, both anticipated and not anticipated. The stuff that can be done now should be done now. You don't want to end load tasks like this. What is easy to do, and has practically the same impact, is to delay blog posts, and other far-reaching announcements of the rebranding until the 3.4 release comes out. My $0.02 -Rob [ ... ]