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From Ross Gardler <>
Subject Re:Updates: IBM Lotus Symphony, Apache OpenOffice, IBM Docs and other fun stuff
Date Sat, 28 Jan 2012 11:04:18 GMT
There's to many conspiracy theories around here.

Lets examine the facts.

IBM told this community of it's intent to donate Symphony code in July

They *offered* it, they did not demand it be accepted. It was broadly

A couple of weeks ago they made an announcement. They did not announce AOO
4, they announced the closing of their fork of AOO. That is an IBM business
decicision and this community has no right to demand influence over that
internal decision.

The OOo community has been complaining that IBM have a fork. Now some are
complaining they are closing the fork. The world has a complex and varied
set of opinions.

IBM did not announce AOO 4. They did show a *proposal* for the look and
feel of AOO 4. This should be no surprise since the donation of the
Symphony code offered in July explicitly included the UI changes. Again
some indicated their pleasure at this.

IBM are not members of this community. Individuals are. No member of the
community can force a decision here. Anyone can object to any code
contribution, if they have good reason and a valid alternative. IBM know

IBM have done nothing wrong here. In fact they have gone to great lengths
to ensure they operate within the Apache way. As a mentor I have no
concerns about their actions to date. As a mentor I am watching carefully.

There is plenty of space for the community to participate and to object to
specific actions. However, complaining about the fact that IBM want to
donate significant resources to the project is wasteful in so many ways I
cannot count them. Save the energy for when you want to object to something
specific rather than some imagined secret plan.

When you do want to object to an unacceptable code contribution be assured
the processes we adopt around here will ensure your voice is heard. See my
"Be lazy, be fast" post at for more on how this works.


Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity.
On Jan 19, 2012 8:25 PM, "Donald Harbison" <> wrote:

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