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From Louis Suárez-Potts <>
Subject Re: 18 Jan 2012: SOPA and PIPA Protest Banner
Date Thu, 19 Jan 2012 04:11:10 GMT

On 18 January 2012 22:11, Sally Khudairi <> wrote:
> Sorry, Louis -- not ignoring you; have been offsite for most of the day.

Actually, not a problem. I knew when I posted my first of several
messages late last night that it was way, way too late. But I had
waited for ASF to do something obvious on its own behalf, and when it
didn't--and when no one on the A OO list did, either--I thought at the
least I'd raise the issue, conscious of its belatedness; indeed, that
was part of the point, and I should hope that for the next time (and
there will be no end of next times) we can act before not after it's
too late.

> Usually we (ASF Marketing & Publicity) need more than same-day notice to
> coordinate such efforts.
> I know there's been discussion about this on the Membership side as well,
> but the consensus (thus far) is to not black out *, as was
> suggested. No further action has been decided upon, IIRC.


> Let's also keep in mind that the ASF Infrastructure team need to be kept
> abreast of any decisions/proposals here as well, as they're the ones capable
> of pulling the trigger on the site.

I am conscious of these things. So. Let's imagine that I want to get
ASF to do something reflecting the will of at least one of its
podlings. As was pointed out, we here can put up a demonstration. But
how would I go about persuading the ASF directorate? And is there any
kind of apparatus (political, technical) that would even allow for the
entire domain to reflect a banner message? (I'd assume, yes, but one
never knows.)

> Thanks,
> Sally
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> ________________________________
> From: Louis Suárez-Potts <>
> To: "ooo-dev@incubator" <>; ASF Marketing &
> Marketing & Publicity <>
> Sent: Wednesday, 18 January 2012, 11:05
> Subject: 18 Jan 2012: SOPA and PIPA Protest Banner
> All,
> Proposal:
> 1. Let's vote on supporting those who have protested the proposed US
> bills supposed to combat piracy but actually doing a lot more than
> that and none of it good. These two proposals: SOPA and PIPA.
> Wikipedia has a fair account:
> 2. I would propose we post on the Apache OpenOffice podling site this
> language, for remainder of the day, to be taken down at the onset of
> 19 January 2012 GMT.
> ** The Apache OpenOffice Podling members support those who have
> darkened their Web sites as a unified gesture to protect the freedoms
> of the Internet and stop misguided legislation that would threaten
> them. **
> I would propose further that we have the text white on a black banner
> at the top of every podling page.
> Please vote as soon as you can, as obviously time is of the essence.
> thanks
> louis
> PS I'm cc'ing the ASF marketing and publicity list. Quite possible
> that Apache will say no, if so, that's fine. Better we act as a body
> together. But I would also suggest that ASF take the lead here and
> issue a statement, if they have not done so already.

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