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From Sally Khudairi>
Subject Re: 18 Jan 2012: SOPA and PIPA Protest Banner
Date Tue, 24 Jan 2012 04:31:07 GMT
Hi Louis --
Regarding your query on issuing a statement on the ASF blog (or otherwise), this is something
that you --the collective Apache iPMC-- can do. As you're still undergoing
incubation, the ASF Marketing & Publicity team are unable to issue press releases or make
any formal announcements regarding the project. When you become a TLP, we can kick that into
gear by helping with major milestone announcements.
In the meantime, feel free to send a note to the ASF Infrastructure team to receive posting
credentials for As long as there's consensus within the iPMC of what will
be posted on behalf of the incubating project, you're good to go. I know that Don Harbison
(copied) is coordinating much of this on behalf of the project.
Should there not be consensus regarding issuing a statement, the you may post something on
your personal blog or elsewhere, but must make it absolutely clear that it is your personal
opinion and that you are not representing the ASF or the Apache iPMC or community
-at large.

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>From: Louis Suárez-Potts <>
>To: Sally Khudairi <> 
>Cc: "ooo-dev@incubator" <>; ASF Marketing & Marketing
& Publicity <> 
>Sent: Wednesday, 18 January 2012, 23:11
>Subject: Re: 18 Jan 2012: SOPA and PIPA Protest Banner
>On 18 January 2012 22:11, Sally Khudairi <> wrote:
>> Sorry, Louis -- not ignoring you; have been offsite for most of the day.
>Actually, not a problem. I knew when I posted my first of several
>messages late last night that it was way, way too late. But I had
>waited for ASF to do something obvious on its own behalf, and when it
>didn't--and when no one on the A OO list did, either--I thought at the
>least I'd raise the issue, conscious of its belatedness; indeed, that
>was part of the point, and I should hope that for the next time (and
>there will be no end of next times) we can act before not after it's
>too late.
>> Usually we (ASF Marketing & Publicity) need more than same-day notice to
>> coordinate such efforts.
>> I know there's been discussion about this on the Membership side as well,
>> but the consensus (thus far) is to not black out *, as was
>> suggested. No further action has been decided upon, IIRC.
>> Let's also keep in mind that the ASF Infrastructure team need to be kept
>> abreast of any decisions/proposals here as well, as they're the ones capable
>> of pulling the trigger on the site.
>I am conscious of these things. So. Let's imagine that I want to get
>ASF to do something reflecting the will of at least one of its
>podlings. As was pointed out, we here can put up a demonstration. But
>how would I go about persuading the ASF directorate? And is there any
>kind of apparatus (political, technical) that would even allow for the
>entire domain to reflect a banner message? (I'd assume, yes, but one
>never knows.)
>> Thanks,
>> Sally
>> = = = = =
>> Boston +1 617 921 8656
>> London +44 (0) 20 3239 9686
>> skype sallykhudairi
>> ________________________________
>> From: Louis Suárez-Potts <>
>> To: "ooo-dev@incubator" <>; ASF Marketing &
>> Marketing & Publicity <>
>> Sent: Wednesday, 18 January 2012, 11:05
>> Subject: 18 Jan 2012: SOPA and PIPA Protest Banner
>> All,
>> Proposal:
>> 1. Let's vote on supporting those who have protested the proposed US
>> bills supposed to combat piracy but actually doing a lot more than
>> that and none of it good. These two proposals: SOPA and PIPA.
>> Wikipedia has a fair account:
>> 2. I would propose we post on the Apache OpenOffice podling site this
>> language, for remainder of the day, to be taken down at the onset of
>> 19 January 2012 GMT.
>> ** The Apache OpenOffice Podling members support those who have
>> darkened their Web sites as a unified gesture to protect the freedoms
>> of the Internet and stop misguided legislation that would threaten
>> them. **
>> I would propose further that we have the text white on a black banner
>> at the top of every podling page.
>> Please vote as soon as you can, as obviously time is of the essence.
>> thanks
>> louis
>> PS I'm cc'ing the ASF marketing and publicity list. Quite possible
>> that Apache will say no, if so, that's fine. Better we act as a body
>> together. But I would also suggest that ASF take the lead here and
>> issue a statement, if they have not done so already.
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