Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0851072E1 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 21:38:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 43625 invoked by uid 500); 17 Dec 2011 21:38:33 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 43566 invoked by uid 500); 17 Dec 2011 21:38:33 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 43556 invoked by uid 99); 17 Dec 2011 21:38:33 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 21:38:33 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of acrealtor@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.175 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.210.175] (HELO mail-iy0-f175.google.com) (209.85.210.175) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 21:38:23 +0000 Received: by iakh37 with SMTP id h37so2872542iak.6 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 13:38:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=YyZ4WtPPA8h0yPeJh01KpdUgN6+sDLs29vYeeZMF4AI=; b=jCbJOTmFXyFaNd9UxdLcQmOlkLKS8+NbMF+CrlLtUokgCaDgo7ePgauA4/eZcBnnx0 ac2f36jB77v26GszcUOOHdKrnOj1ghkk/dxk7C5+q8c3JNybKmmxwAS0LH+kh3s2u2Ig m62UAKHwViELpcoyK5O5IGaMVx4bCRAdiiOIw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.183.233 with SMTP id ep9mr17560649igc.67.1324157882875; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 13:38:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.117.79 with HTTP; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 13:38:02 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <020b01ccbd02$e6b90090$b42b01b0$@acm.org> References: <-7621083024803974204@unknownmsgid> <1324142091.2048.16.camel@sybil-gnome> <012c01ccbcf1$b573d7f0$205b87d0$@acm.org> <020b01ccbd02$e6b90090$b42b01b0$@acm.org> Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 16:38:02 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: A timeline for an Apache OO release From: Andreina Crimmins To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org, dennis.hamilton@acm.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae93409593c41cf04b450884b X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --14dae93409593c41cf04b450884b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 why did I receive this email???? all I am doing is trying to solve a problem using OfficeSuite LE... On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 4:29 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > I think it is irresponsible to not mitigate risk by having multiple levels > of fall-back in place always. Not installing a 3.4 atop a 3.3 is one of > those safeguards. It is foolish not to take that precaution. It honors > users by allowing them to compare based on *their* use cases and decide > when, if ever, to remove a previous version. > > For me, it is always appropriate to leave a previous .x release of a > productivity product installed. As a matter of policy, I would never > silently uninstall anything. That is regardless of the presumed quality of > the new release. > > My intention is to safeguard the user first, no matter what my level of > confidence (or hubris) might be. I am not presuming anything about the > quality of any non-existent release. I am expressing a principle that does > not move our risk of error onto the user if at all possible and practical. > > - Dennis > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rob Weir [mailto:robweir@apache.org] > Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 12:11 > To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: A timeline for an Apache OO release > > On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton > wrote: > > The releases have to be rebranded anyhow, because they are currently > Oracle > > branded. I think having it be OpenOffice.org 3.4 and installed over > > OpenOffice.org 3.3 is a very risky idea. The quick-release cycle may be > great > > for our teething; users should not have to suffer any of the > consequences. > > > [ ... ] > > I think it is irresponsible for anyone to make statements about the > quality or the suitability for production use of a release they have > not yet seen, not installed, and not tested. Let's wait to see a > release candidate before we start issuing speculative predictions that > have no factual basis. > > -Rob > > [ ... ] > > --14dae93409593c41cf04b450884b--