Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5873A7966 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 23:15:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 51103 invoked by uid 500); 11 Dec 2011 23:15:42 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 51054 invoked by uid 500); 11 Dec 2011 23:15:42 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 51046 invoked by uid 99); 11 Dec 2011 23:15:42 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 23:15:42 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of dave2wave@comcast.net designates 76.96.27.212 as permitted sender) Received: from [76.96.27.212] (HELO qmta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net) (76.96.27.212) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 23:15:31 +0000 Received: from omta21.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.88]) by qmta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 7zDo1i0041u4NiLAEzF21s; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 23:15:02 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.7] ([67.180.51.144]) by omta21.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 7zbc1i00G36gVt78hzbdqr; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 23:35:37 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Rationalizing two OpenOffice websites From: Dave Fisher In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 15:15:06 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <1322439624.71382.YahooMailClassic@web113503.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <4EE4B81A.7030502@openoffice.org> <11CF9C89-5984-43FC-A344-ED0B30A19621@comcast.net> <51E8516B-9473-4987-91FE-7CB2F6204F31@comcast.net> <3964A6C7-CF99-4D30-B38A-9B41AC3043B3@comcast.net> <864D3EAD-5E14-4F20-A20F-3B66749969F2@comcast.net> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Dec 11, 2011, at 2:09 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Dave Fisher = wrote: >=20 > >=20 >>=20 >> I've already answered. I've been very clear. Nothing has stopped = others from working on ooo-site. >>=20 >=20 > I apologize if I was not clear. I'm not interested in editing > ooo-site.apache.org. And I happen to think that this is absolute nonsense. ooo-site will be = www.openoffice.org when the time comes. Waiting is a bogus excuse. > I'm interested in editing www.openoffice.org, > the site that users actually visit. I assume that is what most people > want to edit. >=20 > The fact that the PMC does not have the ability currently to update > the website is a problem. I realize that this is not a problem that > you created. I also know that you are trying to address this. We all > appreciate that. But you are one person only, and you appear to be > the bottleneck. That is not a personal attack. It is an observation. I reject that I am a bottleneck. You only think I'm a bottleneck. I've = provided documentation. Many others have edited ooo-site. Do you require = a list of committers? >=20 > If you think this work will take much more time (say more than 2 weeks > more) then you would do us all a great favor and help the project > immensely if you could write up a plan for the remaining work, break > it down into remaining tasks, and ask for help with the remaining > tasks, so we can move this forward faster. I was planning on doing most of the work later today. >=20 > And again, I'm looking for the minimum technical work needed to go > live. Updating the "why" page or the "contributor" page or any other > existing content should not hold us back from going live. Updating these pages does not need to wait. It doesn't matter and I'm = not saying it is contingent. There is no reason to wait. >=20 >> These incessant and accusatory emails are not encouraging me to = finish. >>=20 >=20 > I'm not accusing you of anything, David. I'm encouraging you to > release early and often and enable others to help. I hope that others > on this project can have priorities that may differ from yours without > you taking it as a personal attack. You missed a number of hints. I asked to be left alone today to do the = work. You never asked how much time was needed. What do you think I meant by the situation might differ tomorrow? Regards, Dave >=20 > -Rob