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On Dec 30, 2011, at 3:14 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:

> On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 1:53 PM, TJ Frazier <tjfrazier@cfl.rr.com> =
wrote:
>=20
>> On 12/30/2011 16:23, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>>=20
>>> Rob Weir wrote:
>>>=20
>>>> OK. So are 3.3.0 users getting error messages today because that
>>>> service is down? Or is the problem only that pre-3.3.0 users are =
not
>>>> getting update notifications telling them about the 3.3.0 release?
>>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Both, but all users who are on 3.3.0 (the vast majority) get an =
error
>>> message similar to "Could not establish Internet connection to
>>> =
update36.services.openoffice.**org<http://update36.services.openoffice.org=
>"
>>> as TJ wrote. If you open a search
>>> engine that autocompletes queries, writing "update3" will give you a
>>> nice list of popular queries for this problem, referencing different
>>> servers.
>>>=20
>>> I'd argue that if 3.3.0 users are getting error messages today, then
>>>> it might be a good idea to set up the update notification server =
now
>>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> They are getting the error message, and indeed the sooner it is =
fixed
>>> the better, even though the moment when this becomes quite =
embarrassing
>>> is when Apache OpenOffice 3.4 is out and OpenOffice.org 3.3.0 users =
are
>>> shown an error message on trying to know whether updates are =
available.
>>>=20
>>> Is this the protocol that we are using:
>>>> http://wiki.services.**openoffice.org/wiki/Update_**
>>>> =
Notification_Protocol<http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Update_Noti=
fication_Protocol>
>>>> ?
>>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Not sure. The wiki page seems to concern a proposed protocol =
upgrade, it
>>> might be that the current one is simpler. The address is set here:
>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/**incubator/ooo/trunk/main/**
>>> =
instsetoo_native/util/**openoffice.lst?view=3Dmarkup<http://svn.apache.org=
/viewvc/incubator/ooo/trunk/main/instsetoo_native/util/openoffice.lst?view=
=3Dmarkup>
>>>=20
>>> (search for UPDATEURL, set to =
update38.services.openoffice.**org<http://update38.services.openoffice.org=
>
>>> )
>>> but I don't know where the code uses it. And I don't know whether =
the
>>> neon library removal affects the client side of this service or not.
>>>=20
>>> Regards,
>>> Andrea.
>>>=20
>>> Fascinating! =46rom 3.4 Beta I get:
>> =
http://update38.services.**openoffice.org/**ProductUpdateService/check.**
>> =
Update<http://update38.services.openoffice.org/ProductUpdateService/check.=
Update>does not exist.
>>=20
>> /tj/
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
> On all this...yes, I knew it was becasue the service was no longer
> available, and since, for me anyway, it's a manual pull, well at least =
it
> wasn't in your face all the time. But...my concern is what to do about =
it
> *now* and for a future release. We have "downloads" but no "updates".
>=20
> We need to bring up the service, as *currently* sepc'd to fix current
> versions, and possibly change the URL in code (pointing to another =
service)
> for future releases.
>=20
> In addition to comments from  friends, this has been mentioned on the =
"old"
> user list.
>=20
> Anyway, on we go. We all have a lot to review before 3.4 -- which =
hopefully
> will be VERY soon!

If we setup a page within www.openoffice.org/.... to respond as if there =
are no updates to earlier versions at =
update38.services.openoffice.org/ProductUpdateService/check.Update

Then I'm sure we can

(1) redirect requests to that page.
(2) replace with an appropriate message when 3.4 is available.

If someone creates the page ... then I'll work out the rest with Joe or =
Gavin.

Regards,
Dave


>=20
> --=20
> =
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> MzK
>=20
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