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Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 12:34:25 -0800 (PST)
From: Joe Schaefer <joe_schaefer@yahoo.com>
Reply-To: Joe Schaefer <joe_schaefer@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [WWW] Changeover is Close - Final Tasks!
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No. What I'd recommend is to put a redirect into=0Aooo-site so it points at=
 the lists url on openoffice.org.=0AAt least until there's corresponding co=
ntent available=0Afor ooo-site at which point you can remove the redirect=
=0Aback to openoffice.org.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A>________________________________=
=0A> From: Dennis E. Hamilton <dennis.hamilton@acm.org>=0A>To: ooo-dev@incu=
bator.apache.org =0A>Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 3:32 PM=0A>Subject: =
RE: [WWW] Changeover is Close - Final Tasks!=0A> =0A>Now I'm even more conf=
used.=0A>=0A>Will http://openoffice.org/projects/www/lists/ still find the =
list pages or will it redirect to http://www.openoffice.org/projects/www/li=
sts/ and 404, since ooo-site.apache.org/projects/www/lists/ has nothing the=
re?=0A>=0A>- Dennis=0A>=0A>-----Original Message-----=0A>From: Dave Fisher =
[mailto:dave2wave@comcast.net] =0A>Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 12:19=
=0A>To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org=0A>Cc: dennis.hamilton@acm.org=0A>Subj=
ect: Re: [WWW] Changeover is Close - Final Tasks!=0A>=0A>=0A>On Dec 22, 201=
1, at 11:51 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote:=0A>=0A>> But we're NOT cutting over "op=
enoffice.org"=0A>> now so I don't see what the hemming and hawing=0A>> is a=
bout.=A0 We're doing "www.openoffice.org",=0A>> aren't we?=0A>=0A>Dennis mi=
ssed our discussion of this trick.=0A>=0A>If a user goes to http://openoffi=
ce.org/ then Kenai very nicely redirects them to http://www.openoffice.org/=
.=0A>=0A>Website migration is decoupled from the following other issues:=0A=
>- Mailing List cutover. (ooo-site should avoid allowing users to subscribe=
 to the old lists.)=0A>- @openoffice.org forwarder cut-off.=0A>- openoffice=
.org ids and extensions and templates access.=0A>=0A>There are a bunch of s=
ervlets around login and project mailing lists. These will break. They will=
 need to be removed, but I don't think that should stop us from migration.=
=0A>=0A>I do agree that we should make the old legacy visible on the new si=
te. I've asked for someone to look into /mail_list.html. Links to http://op=
enoffice.org/projects/ and http://openoffice.org/projects/www/lists/. would=
 be welcome additions. CTR people!=0A>=0A>Regards,=0A>Dave=0A>=0A>=0A>>> __=
______________________________=0A>>> From: Dennis E. Hamilton <himself@orcm=
id.com>=0A>>> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; 'Joe Schaefer' <joe_schaefe=
r@yahoo.com> =0A>>> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 2:46 PM=0A>>> Subject=
: RE: [WWW] Changeover is Close - Final Tasks!=0A>>> =0A>>> It has to do wi=
th this page and all of the other pages like it for the lists that each of =
the OpenOffice.org projects (and NL projects) have: =0A>>> =0A>>> <http://o=
penoffice.org/projects/www/lists>.=0A>>> =0A>>> If you have an OpenOffice.o=
rg login, you will see Subscribe and (if already subscribed) Unsubscribe bu=
ttons for each list on that page.=A0 Also, the archives are accessible from=
 those pages in a browser-friendly form.=A0 This is how one can read the li=
st using a browser and there is even a way to post to the list via the web =
interface.=0A>>> =0A>>> While some people aren't aware that there is this o=
ne-stop arrangement and use the e-mail means of controlling their subscript=
ion, others rely on this, including TJ for administrative functions.=A0 =0A=
>>> =0A>>> This aspect of the mailing-list service will go away with the cu=
t-over of the web site.=A0 There is no reminder or announcement about that.=
=0A>>> =0A>>> - Dennis=0A>>> =0A>>> -----Original Message-----=0A>>> From: =
Joe Schaefer [mailto:joe_schaefer@yahoo.com] =0A>>> Sent: Thursday, Decembe=
r 22, 2011 10:59=0A>>> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org=0A>>> Subject: Re: =
[WWW] Changeover is Close - Final Tasks!=0A>>> =0A>>> Why does one have to =
do with the other?=0A>>> We are not cutting over the MX record for=0A>>> op=
enoffice.org now are we?=0A>>> =0A>>> [ ... ]=0A>>> =0A>>> =0A>>> =0A>=0A>=
=0A>=0A>
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