Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 98E857077 for ; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 23:03:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 18581 invoked by uid 500); 21 Dec 2011 23:03:04 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 18521 invoked by uid 500); 21 Dec 2011 23:03:04 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 18511 invoked by uid 99); 21 Dec 2011 23:03:04 -0000 Received: from minotaur.apache.org (HELO minotaur.apache.org) (140.211.11.9) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 23:03:04 +0000 Received: from localhost (HELO APT510) (127.0.0.1) (smtp-auth username apulsifer, mechanism login) by minotaur.apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 23:03:04 +0000 From: "Allen Pulsifer" To: Subject: RE: Team OpenOffice White Label Office (powered by Apache Open Office) Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 18:03:02 -0500 Message-ID: <007401ccc034$b15323b0$13f96b10$@apache.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AczANJSWBbMLFLNdQq+t1BHJQHAZ8Q== Content-Language: en-us Let me go a step further. Here's the problem I have with what Team OpenOffice is doing. Team OpenOffice began their "donation" campaign by telling the world that the OpenOffice.org project was at risk of disappearing. This damaged the OpenOffice.org brand by leading users to question whether OpenOffice.org could be relied on in the future. Their press release for "White Label Office" continues in a similar direction. It contains many subtle digs at the Apache project, implying that it has no engineers, lacks technical know-how, is unwilling to produce maintenance releases, is incompetent to continue developing the project, and in the end, all it has is a trademark on OpenOffice.org which it unreasonably refuses to share. That part I don't understand is this: if in fact Team OpenOffice wishes to work with the Apache OpenOffice project, why do they continue to disparage it? Are they worried that at some point, if in fact they have a release based on Apache OpenOffice, they will regret having disparaged the project? I remain concerned that their statements to this project do not match their actions or their statements to the rest of the world. I'm not sure what else to say about it at this point.