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From Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net>
Subject Re: [WWW] Changeover is Close - Final Tasks!
Date Tue, 27 Dec 2011 00:25:48 GMT

On Dec 26, 2011, at 4:12 PM, Rob Weir wrote:

> On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Kay Schenk <kay.schenk@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 6:35 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2wave@comcast.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On Dec 23, 2011, at 5:56 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 1:55 AM, Dave Fisher <dave2wave@comcast.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> <snip>
>>>> 
>>>>> (6) We will be changing references to Projects and Project Leaders to
>>> Teams and Team Leaders (thanks Kay for the idea! it's not perfect..).
>>>>> 
>>>>> It is a question for the project about what to do with the "Team
>>> Leader" category and the name. There is probably consensus to eliminate
>>> "Leaders". I do think it is worth retaining this information until it is
>>> determined if the individuals mentioned contribute to the AOO(i) project.
>>> We can play with this after migration, but it would be good to be
>>> consistent for the start.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> As we all know, leadership at Apache is what you do.  It is not a
>>>> title.  You might the website lead today, but in a month in might be
>>>> someone else.  In fact, you might hope it was even sooner ;-)
>>> 
>>> I try ;-D
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> So rather than declare "leads" in various categories on the
>>>> openoffice.org website (the public facing, user website) I wonder
>>>> whether we could just use our existing "People" page  [1]?  That
>>>> provides an easy way for any committer to indicate their interests and
>>>> it would be easy for anyone to indicate their current project focus as
>>>> well.
>>> 
>>> If you follow the thread and the commits from Kay today, you'll see that
>>> we've removed the project leader column!
>>> 
>>> The people page is a good idea. I think that the Apache concept is very ad
>>> hoc. ooo-dev is the place to form up teams for various activities. (I've
>>> recently read a history of the Comanches.)
>>> 
>>> I wonder if we should discuss two of the topnav buttons currently on
>>> ooo-site - Teams and Develop.
>>> 
>>> I think Teams should be renamed Project and ought to link to a new page
>>> that combines projects/accepted.html and incubator.html. The OOo projects
>>> become tables of links into ooo-site.  People, mailing lists and
>>> get-involved would be linked to in the podling site. An explanation that at
>>> Apache Teams are formed on ooo-dev. If you are interested in an
>>> improvement: bring it up, help may appear, a team may form.
>>> 
>> 
>> Hi Dave--
>> 
>> Playing catch up here. The idea of renaming "Teams" to "Project" seems
>> worthwhile, I think. Although I think "Project" might need some further
>> definition especially is we present a *list* of items. Some suggestions:
>> Project Areas, Development Areas, Focus Areas? Maybe I'm just muddying the
>> waters I don't know.
>> 
> 
> "Project" already has a meaning at Apache. Do we really want to
> overload that term?  I like "Focus Areas".  I was going to suggest it
> before, but I wasn't sure if the term was familiar to non-native
> English speakers.

Let's change Teams to "Focus" and the page "Focus Areas"

Regards,
Dave

> 
> 
>> As far as the legacy Incubator projects...I'm not sure how many of these
>> are still really "active". And...we had some discussion about "bizdev"
>> early on that indicated this was probably NOT an appropriate activity/group
>> for the ASF.  Of the remaining incubator areas, I think we might include
>> only the following: Education, Extensions, Modularization, Performance,
>> Security, Specifications, VBA Interoperability (???), WP.
>> 
>> Just my .02.
>> 
>> Anyway, your ideas DO seem pretty good to me.
>> 
>> 
>>> I would make this new page in mdtext. I programmed a table enhancement for
>>> the CMS today that will help keep the page compact - columns of rows.
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I don't mind mdtext, but I'm more comfortable with HTML. :)
>> 
>> But...I'm open to see what you come up with. Is there an accessible mock-up
>> somewhere?
>> 
>> 
>>> Thoughts?
>>> 
>>> I wonder if Develop should also go there? Does this all become a new "Get
>>> Involved"?
>>> 
>>> Happy Holidays,
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> [1] http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/people.html
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> MzK
>> 
>> "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged
>>  by the way its animals are treated."
>>                              -- Mohandas Gandhi


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