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From Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [PROPOSAL] Setup of ooo-users-it and ooo-project-it mailing lists
Date Sun, 11 Dec 2011 17:30:47 GMT
On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Dave Fisher <dave2wave@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> On Dec 11, 2011, at 7:47 AM, Rob Weir wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Andrea Pescetti
>> <pescetti@openoffice.org> wrote:
>>> Il 11/12/2011 Rob Weir wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Andrea Pescetti <...>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> - A support list, named ooo-users-it at incubator.apache.org
>>>>> - A project list, named ooo-project-it at incubator.apache.org
>>>>
>>>> I wonder if ooo-general-it.i.a.o might be possible, instead of
>>>> ooo-project-it.i.a.o?
>>>
>>>
>>> It would be possible but suboptimal, as "general" is not "general" for us,
>>> since most people will want to subscribe to "users" and the "project" list
>>> would be "specific" (i.e., for volunteers) and not "general". This is why I
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I propose to ... use "ooo-project-it" instead of "ooo-general-it"
>>>>>
>>>>> since it is much easier to understand for us.
>>>
>>>
>>> Then we could revise the names at graduation time; it might well be that the
>>> Japanese list is renamed too.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Tt is a convention at Apache for the main list of a project to be a
>> "dev" list and for it to cover more than just coding.  But we could
>> decide to make a different convention if we think it would be less
>> confusing to our community.
>>
>> To me "general" means a general project list, not specifically dev, or
>> qa or marketing, but all of these functions.
>>
>> I don't have a strong preference for one naming scheme over another,
>> but it would be good to be consistent.  If we go with "project" then
>> maybe we rename ooo-dev to project@openoffice.apache.org at
>> graduation?
>
> The consistency is as follows:
>
> (1) MLs have this form: ooo-*@incubator.a.o
>
> (2) NL MLs have the form: ooo-*-<nl-code>@i.a.o
>
> (3) Apache convention is about the main list being ooo-dev@a.i.o. I've seen nothing to
suggest it has to apply to every NL.
>
> (4) ML names have to be valid for Apache Infra and not profane or otherwise problematic.
>
> I think we have to follow each NL's understanding of their own language.
>

OK.  That's a good argument.  Maybe they would even want ooo-foo-it,
where foo is something in Italian.  That would be reasoable, subject
to any character range restrictions in ezlmlm.

-Rob

> So, totally +1 to Andrea's plan.
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
>
>>
>> -Rob
>>
>>
>>> Anyway it's clear that neither of ooo-general-it and ooo-project-it would be
>>> a final list name, since the "ooo" acronym will much likely disappear upon
>>> graduation. I was merely trying to get names a bit more in the right
>>> direction.
>>>
>>> If ooo-project-it is not OK, settling on ooo-general-it will surely be
>>> better than leaving several hundreds people waiting for a solution.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>  Andrea.
>

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