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From Ross Gardler <>
Subject Re: AOO 3.4 Feature impact from IP cleanup
Date Tue, 06 Dec 2011 14:04:40 GMT
On 6 December 2011 13:56, Rob Weir <> wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 8:42 AM, Ross Gardler <> wrote:
>> Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity.
>> On Dec 6, 2011 1:22 AM, "Rob Weir" <> wrote:
>>> I'd like to draw your attention to the following wiki page.  It lists
>>> the libraries that are being removed from the code, because of
>>> incompatible licenses.  It lists the replacement, where they exist, as
>>> well as the user impact.
>>> This information will be useful to testing the 3.4 released.  We
>>> should focus on the areas where we are introducing new libraries.
>> Very useful. Thanks.
>>> But I think it will also be interesting if you have heard (as I have)
>>> people suggest that AOO 3.4 will be greatly degraded in functionality
>>> due to the IP cleanup, and the resulting release will not be usable.
>>> I think much of the confusion is due to imperfect knowledge about what
>>> is permissible in Apache source versus binary releases.
>> You might want to unpack that a little. Apache doesn't do binary releases.
>> Projects often provide binary packages built directly from source releases
>> as a convenience.
> Sure, if you want to say we publish binary packages rather than
> release them, then that's fine.  I think we're using different words
> for the same thing.  But I'm happy to adopt your usage if you think it
> is important.
>> Perhaps I'm missing the point you are trying to make here.
> For example, treatment of MPL, which may be included  in a binary
> package, but may not be included in the source release

Got it, when you said "what is permissible in Apache source versus
binary releases" you mean what it is "permissible to include in an
Apache release". I read it as what is permissible in an Apache
release. So I was misunderstanding your point. Ignore this red


> -Rob
>>> In any case, I invite you to consult the following page, and see the
>>> functionality that will be impacted.  Note that in at least two cases
>>> the replacements will be functional improvements to the code that is
>>> being removed.
>>> If you know of something that is missing from the table, feel free to
>>> add it.  Let's be transparent about the facts and let the FUD
>>> evaporate.
>>> -Rob

Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
Programme Leader (Open Development)

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