On Dec 12, 2011, at 3:51 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
> OK, one last thought--will the redirect of www.openoffice.org to
> ooo-site.apache.org affect the svn.openoffice.org areas?
>
> I recently pulled the "accepted" projects while doing the massvie updates a
> week or so ago, but have NOT updated my copy of the "incubator" projects
> in some time. So...do we need to do this one last snapshot before
> proceeding? I would think svn.openoffice.org should NOT be affected, but I
> just wanted to check.
As long as *.openoffice.org catch all rules is left and the 137 specific domains are added
then all the catch-alls will still go to Kenai.
>
> From my perspective, the sooner we can put ooo-site.apache.org into
> production, the better! Yes, it needs some tooling, but let's go for ti!
Sure.
>
> On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2wave@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Dec 12, 2011, at 3:11 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 9:45 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2wave@comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 11, 2011, at 9:36 PM, Dave Fisher wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Joe,
>>>>>
>>>>> Great. I've created a URL redirect list which I'll attach to INFRA-3933
>>>> as we discussed.
>>>>
>>>> I also updated -
>>>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/DNS,+Virtual+Hosts+and+Redirects
>>>>
>>>
>>> Dave--
>>>
>>> GREAT WORK! Thanks for going to all this trouble--really! :)
>>
>> Your great work made this easy!
>>
>> WIth all of the subdomains in place in the svn it was all about making
>> directory names into domain names and grinding through.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I made the list in the following format - the first three are special
>>>> and following is the pattern for the rest of the well over 100
>> subdomains.
>>>>>
>>>>> FR Forum will be happy about the first. Rob should note both
>>>> contributing and security will begin to go to the podling site.
>>>>>
>>>>> qa.openoffice.org
>>>>> redirectMatch permanent /issues/(.*) https://issues.apache.org/ooo/$1
>>>>> redirectMatch permanent (.*) www.openoffice.org/qa/$1
>>>>>
>>>>> contributing.openoffice.org
>>>>> redirectMatch permanent (.*)
>>>> incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/get-involved.html
>>>>>
>>>>> security.openoffice.org
>>>>> redirectMatch permanent (.*)
>>>> incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/security/
>>>>>
>>>>> aa.openoffice.org
>>>>> redirectMatch permanent (.*) www.openoffice.org/aa/$1
>>>>>
>>>>> about.openoffice.org
>>>>> redirectMatch permanent (.*) www.openoffice.org/about/$1
>>>>>
>>>>> af.openoffice.org
>>>>> redirectMatch permanent (.*) www.openoffice.org/af/$1
>>>>>
>>>>> am.openoffice.org
>>>>> redirectMatch permanent (.*) www.openoffice.org/am/$1
>>>>>
>>>>> ....
>>>>>
>>>>> Other redirects anyone?
>>>>>
>>>>> With this information you should have everything ready to do the
>>>> switchover when the word is given.
>>>>>
>>>>> It would make people happy to have the first qa.oo.o redirect and those
>>>> for contributing.oo.o and security.oo.o immediately.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Dave
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 11, 2011, at 6:59 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> All set. Just did a full site build and it went thru no trouble.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: Joe Schaefer <joe_schaefer@yahoo.com>
>>>>>>> To: "ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org" <ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org>
>>>>>>> Cc:
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 8:45 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Rationalizing two OpenOffice websites
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm working with Gav to get the timeout upped as that's what's
>>>>>>> causing the builds to fail (long delays when the built site gets
>>>>>>> checked back in). I will let you know once I have things ready
>>>>>>> for you to make mass changes to the ooo-site.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: Dave Fisher <dave2wave@comcast.net>
>>>>>>>> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>>>>>>> Cc:
>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 8:32 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Rationalizing two OpenOffice websites
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Dec 11, 2011, at 5:17 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Why don't you just decide to make the current ooo-site
live,
>>>>>>>>> and tell infra to change dns for www.openoffice.org to
point
>>>>>>>>> at it?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There is an outstanding question about exactly how the extensions
>> and
>>>>>>> templates
>>>>>>>> authenticate users. It is being investigated.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also the subdomain map needs to be built.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've made some performance enhancements to the CMS today
so
>>>>>>>>> web checkouts will only take a few seconds as opposed
to 30min.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's wonderful!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also I will be working on your site's build because it
is in a
>>>>>>>>> terrible state, but that will take more time.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Too much was committed at once.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So, we don't collide let me know if you are working with
templates
>> or
>>>>>>> lib, I
>>>>>>>> am (or was) about to play with that part. I am really effin,
tired
>> of
>>>> being
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> yelled at at repeatedly by Rob.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When I'm done with my plan nearly every html file in ooo-site
will
>> be
>>>>>>>> updated, how do you want to co-ordinate that?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>> From: Rob Weir <robweir@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>> Cc:
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 7:55 PM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Rationalizing two OpenOffice websites
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 6:15 PM, Dave Fisher
>>>>>>>> <dave2wave@comcast.net>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 11, 2011, at 2:09 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Dave Fisher
>>>>>>>>>> <dave2wave@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've already answered. I've been very
clear.
>>>>>>>> Nothing has
>>>>>>>>>> stopped others from working on ooo-site.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I apologize if I was not clear. I'm not
interested in
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> editing
>>>>>>>>>>>> ooo-site.apache.org.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> And I happen to think that this is absolute nonsense.
ooo-site
>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>> www.openoffice.org when the time comes. Waiting is
a bogus
>> excuse.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> To the extent that you continue to not understand
what I am saying
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>> will continue to repeat myself, attempting various
ways of
>>>>>>>>>> reformulating my point.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I want to update www.openoffice.org. I do not want
to update
>> only
>>>>>>>>>> your test server. I want the changes I make now
to be reflected
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>> the public, user facing openoffice.org website after
a simple
>>>>>>> staging
>>>>>>>>>> and publication stage, i.e., near real time, no more
than a few
>>>>>>>>>> minutes delay. That is what the project needs.
This is what we
>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>> need. The fact that we can can easily update ooo-site,
a staging
>>>>>>>>>> website that no user actually ever sees is a partial
success only.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What I hear you saying is that we're free to update
the data
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> /ooo-site and that will then appear on the test staging
server.
>>>>>>> That
>>>>>>>>>> is nice. But the changes that you, me and others
have made on
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> content is not being seen by real users. It is stuck
in limbo.
>>>>>>> We
>>>>>>>>>> can invite committers to stick more content into
limbo, of course,
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> queue it up for publication at some indeterminate
point in the
>>>>>>> future.
>>>>>>>>>> But I'm more interested in what we need to do to
get the
>>>>>>> content
>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>> of limbo and live on www.openoffice.org. How do
we complete
>> this?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So this is not about ooo-site. This is about the
complete
>>>>>>> publication
>>>>>>>>>> pipeline. That is what matters for the PPMC's ability
to
>>>>>>> properly
>>>>>>>>>> manage the www.openoffice.org website. Nothing is
live until the
>>>>>>> PPMC
>>>>>>>>>> can effectively update the real site.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Remember, what our users have on www.openoffice.org
is very wrong
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> many places. We're continuing every day to harm
the project
>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> content remains as-is and is not replaced by accurate
project
>>>>>>>>>> information. The fact that some of the content
is corrected in
>>>>>>> SVN
>>>>>>>>>> or on ooo-site is not enough.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If at all possible, I'd urge us to take a "release
early,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> release
>>>>>>>>>> often" approach to the website migration rather than
a
>>>>>>> "big
>>>>>>>> bang
>>>>>>>>>> integration" approach.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What is the minimum that really needs to be done
to make this site
>>>>>>> go
>>>>>>>>>> live? And how can I, and anyone else who is interested
in
>>>>>>>>>> accelerating this work, help?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -Rob
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> MzK
>>>
>>> "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged
>>> by the way its animals are treated."
>>> -- Mohandas Gandhi
>>
>>
>
>
> --
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> MzK
>
> "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged
> by the way its animals are treated."
> -- Mohandas Gandhi
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