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From Dave Fisher <>
Subject Re: [WWW] Changeover is Close - Final Tasks!
Date Thu, 22 Dec 2011 21:27:34 GMT
On Dec 22, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:

> All I know is that 
> have important content related to the lists
that are still operating.

> 404.
> That's not a speculation.

Go to and tell me what you get.

wave@minotaur:~$ curl

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "">
<html xmlns="">


<div class="contentPadding">
  <h2 class="pageTitle">Not Found</h2>
  <!-- This file lives in public/404.html -->
  <div style="padding: 10px 0 10px 0;">
    The page you were looking for doesn't exist.<br/>
    You may have mistyped the address or the page may have moved.
  <a href="#" onclick="history.back(); return false;"><span class="bullet">&laquo;</span>&nbsp;back</a>
  <a href="/">home&nbsp;<span class="bullet">&raquo;</span></a>


You will then see that ooo-site does not need any redirection for these urls. Users do not
have any expectation other than a 404.

> So if you are only redirecting (or its index page) to,
no deep linking into will redirect, is that right?

KENAI does this redirect, not us. We do NOT need to redirect anything in the
path. We are leaving that legacy behind.

>  And only ... URLs will see ... paths,
is that that the idea?

They will have the same IP.

> OK, so that explains why there is no worry about recursion if
redirects to as Joe suggests.  I prefer that part of it

There is no worry because we just don't need it. I won't ask Joe to do it.

> I know how to do that on my own web sites, whether using .htaccess or meta elements in
page headers. For ooo-site, not so much.

For the future, meta elements should work just fine.

> And I am now going off list for a time while I sort out other work.

Me too. A lot to TRY to convince you that there is no worry and no need.


> - Dennis 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Fisher [] 
> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 12:42
> To:
> Subject: Re: [WWW] Changeover is Close - Final Tasks!
> On Dec 22, 2011, at 12:32 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
>> Now I'm even more confused.
>> Will still find the list pages or will
it redirect to and 404, since
has nothing there?
> No it won't redirect. It only redirects at the first level.
> does not exist at Kenai it gives a 404.
Nothing to worry about.
> The pattern is
> Please try these urls in your browser before you speculate.
> Regards,
> Dave
>> - Dennis
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dave Fisher [] 
>> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 12:19
>> To:
>> Cc:
>> Subject: Re: [WWW] Changeover is Close - Final Tasks!
>> On Dec 22, 2011, at 11:51 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
>>> But we're NOT cutting over ""
>>> now so I don't see what the hemming and hawing
>>> is about.  We're doing "",
>>> aren't we?
>> Dennis missed our discussion of this trick.
>> If a user goes to then Kenai very nicely redirects them to
>> Website migration is decoupled from the following other issues:
>> - Mailing List cutover. (ooo-site should avoid allowing users to subscribe to the
old lists.)
>> - forwarder cut-off.
>> - ids and extensions and templates access.
>> There are a bunch of servlets around login and project mailing lists. These will
break. They will need to be removed, but I don't think that should stop us from migration.
>> I do agree that we should make the old legacy visible on the new site. I've asked
for someone to look into /mail_list.html. Links to and
would be welcome additions. CTR people!
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: Dennis E. Hamilton <>
>>>> To:; 'Joe Schaefer' <>

>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 2:46 PM
>>>> Subject: RE: [WWW] Changeover is Close - Final Tasks!
>>>> It has to do with this page and all of the other pages like it for the lists
that each of the projects (and NL projects) have: 
>>>> <>.
>>>> If you have an login, you will see Subscribe and (if already
subscribed) Unsubscribe buttons for each list on that page.  Also, the archives are accessible
from those pages in a browser-friendly form.  This is how one can read the list using a browser
and there is even a way to post to the list via the web interface.
>>>> While some people aren't aware that there is this one-stop arrangement and
use the e-mail means of controlling their subscription, others rely on this, including TJ
for administrative functions.  
>>>> This aspect of the mailing-list service will go away with the cut-over of
the web site.  There is no reminder or announcement about that.
>>>> - Dennis
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Joe Schaefer [] 
>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 10:59
>>>> To:
>>>> Subject: Re: [WWW] Changeover is Close - Final Tasks!
>>>> Why does one have to do with the other?
>>>> We are not cutting over the MX record for
>>>> now are we?
>>>> [ ... ]

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